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11-11-2014 , 01:02 AM

#651

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Originally Posted by Mubsy Bogues

He turned his hand over like he thought he was good.

Yup I noticed that as well.

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11-11-2014 , 01:02 AM

#652

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Originally Posted by Mubsy Bogues

He turned his hand over like he thought he was good.

he clearly said he was bluffing in the interview after busting.

saying he thought tonking had what he thought he had, and he made a good call.

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11-11-2014 , 01:02 AM

#653

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Originally Posted by BRm34eva

Anyone have a HH of the last Newhouse hand?

Somebody raises, Newhizzle calls TT, Tonking 3-bet QQ from SB, somebody folds, Newhizzzle calls.

Flop J4x

Tonking bets, Newhizzle calls.

Turn 4

Tonking checks, Newhizzle bets, Tonking calls.

River J

Tonking checks, Newhizzle shoves ~10million into ~28 million pot. Tonking calls.

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11-11-2014 , 01:02 AM

#654

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Not really sure why, but I am starting to dislike Tonking. He just looks like a prick, probably unfair but idk.

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11-11-2014 , 01:03 AM

#655

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Originally Posted by beauvanlaanen

Some top pros are saying on Twitter that they think Newhouse was value betting, idk though...

It definitely makes more sense than a bluff. On such a dry board and this SPR, I could see someone saying "Tonking should be 3barrelling every hand that beats Newhouse". I think it's too thin at this table but I wouldn't be surprised if in a vaccuum it's OK.

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11-11-2014 , 01:03 AM

#656

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Originally Posted by ebet33

lol value betting wha???

Not sure, but some guys are saying that they way he turned over his cards made it seem like he wasn't bluffing. But idk.

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11-11-2014 , 01:04 AM

#657

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Originally Posted by beauvanlaanen

Some top pros are saying on Twitter that they think Newhouse was value betting, idk though...

thats exactly what im saying....he wasnt even bluffing! such a terrible spot to run a bluff with a hand like TT that has so much showdown value given his maniac-loose image!

also if you notice, he flipped his hand over very quickly and confidently as if he thought he just won a big pot...and his posture did a 180 after Tonking started flipping his cards over like a boss!

def a value bet.
def a horrible play.
def will say he was bluffing afterwards to save face...

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11-11-2014 , 01:04 AM

#658

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Originally Posted by fuggybootnling

Do you think Newhouse will play pocket nines ever again in his poker career?

He had TT...

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11-11-2014 , 01:04 AM

#659

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Originally Posted by Conz

huge Springsteen fan - and I'm out. So sick of everyone in Jersey worshipping that crap. He had me at Mets, Knicks, Rangers, lost me at Springsteen. Go Billy.

Exactly what I was thinking.

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11-11-2014 , 01:04 AM

#660

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If he was value betting he would have thought about it a bit on the river. He instashipped like he had a Jack. Tonking's 3bet range pre is super strong in that spot.

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11-11-2014 , 01:04 AM

#661

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Antonio handing out way too much respect tonight.

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11-11-2014 , 01:04 AM

#662

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Originally Posted by BRm34eva

Anyone have a HH of the last Newhouse hand?

Not exactly but he had 10-10, raised pre, Tonking calls with Q -Q

Flop J-4-x

Newhouse bets, Tonking calls.
Turn 4
Newhouse bets, Tonking calls.
River J
Newhouse shoves for about 10mil, Tonking calls

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11-11-2014 , 01:04 AM

#663

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Originally Posted by beauvanlaanen

Not really sure why, but I am starting to dislike Tonking. He just looks like a prick, probably unfair but idk.

+1

i'd hate to see this dude take this down

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11-11-2014 , 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PokerIsTooEasy

If he was value betting he would have thought about it a bit on the river. He instashipped like he had a Jack. Tonking's 3bet range pre is super strong in that spot.

Flatting pre flop put Newhouse in an awkward spot throughout the hand

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11-11-2014 , 01:05 AM

#665

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Originally Posted by beauvanlaanen

Not sure, but some guys are saying that they way he turned over his cards made it seem like he wasn't bluffing. But idk.

Or does he always turn his hand over like that? If I have 5 high that's how I flip my hand over and I think Newhouse does the same.

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11-11-2014 , 01:06 AM

#666

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Let's talk more about new houses epic punt please

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11-11-2014 , 01:06 AM

#667

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Originally Posted by beauvanlaanen

Flatting pre flop put Newhouse in an awkward spot throughout the hand

Which is why he should have just folded pre. Tonking's range crushes him and he had no evidence that Tonking was ever making a move pre.

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11-11-2014 , 01:06 AM

#668

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Originally Posted by beauvanlaanen

Flatting pre flop put Newhouse in an awkward spot throughout the hand

Such an easy check back otf and check back otr

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11-11-2014 , 01:07 AM

#669

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Originally Posted by chacharu33

I think Newhouse put Tonking on AK and shoved thinking he was ahead ~80% of the time. I dont think he intended doing that as a bluff.

He said in his interview after he busted he expected Tonking to have QQ there.....

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11-11-2014 , 01:07 AM

#670

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lol @ ESPN only having this slotted for 5 hours. Could still be 8 people left when the 5 hour mark is hit.

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11-11-2014 , 01:07 AM

#671

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where is watching teh stream? pm por favor

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11-11-2014 , 01:07 AM

#672

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In NVG everyone has solved NL Hold'em it's amazing.

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11-11-2014 , 01:08 AM

#673

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Originally Posted by PokerIsTooEasy

Which is why he should have just folded pre. Tonking's range crushes him and he had no evidence that Tonking was ever making a move pre.

I think he was 90% positive he would flop a set and after he didnt he was just mad tilted and spewed off the rest.

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11-11-2014 , 01:08 AM

#674

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Originally Posted by FromACtoLV

No. Van Hoof (I think) raised. Newhouse flatted. Tonking 3bet pre.

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11-11-2014 , 01:08 AM

#675

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Originally Posted by PokerIsTooEasy

Or does he always turn his hand over like that? If I have 5 high that's how I flip my hand over and I think Newhouse does the same.

Think he flipped it over like that hoping somehow, some way, his hand was good.

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