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07-12-2022 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by wreckem713
They should pay only the final table

while there's something fascinating about that, it would disincentivize too many people to even enter.

Payout is perfect as it is right now, you make it ITM it's a huge win unless you're some big name.
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07-12-2022 , 10:31 PM
did Kunze double through Li a second time? stacks look that way
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07-12-2022 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
Someone should pair him up with MissSaraPalmer.
Haha yeah that would be a treat.
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07-12-2022 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TiltPocketAces
while there's something fascinating about that, it would disincentivize too many people to even enter.

Payout is perfect as it is right now, you make it ITM it's a huge win unless you're some big name.
I know but its fun to think about
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07-12-2022 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by wreckem713
I know but its fun to think about

if you thought people were tense and on edge when it gets down to 27 or so.. I can only imagine how it would be if final 9 all got paid $2-3 mil if they got their and the rest got 0. The amount of tanking and yelling to the floor about things would be a great human experiment lol
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07-12-2022 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TiltPocketAces
Poker in general is not known for being the cleanest "sport".

If they never banned Chris Ferguson after the Ponzi scheme, they aren't ever going to do anything.
Doesn't meant they can't attempt to change that image.

As for Ferguson (and Lederer and Bitar), I could see the WSOP not caring because those guys effectively cheated at business, not playing poker. As I just stated, the WSOP won't attempt to adjudicate over people who "did bad things," only those who cheat in poker.

It's tough to know what the decisions will be. A few years back, someone high up at the WSOP decided to cover up the Russ Hamilton banner of past champions. He was never proven as a cheat, just highly, highly suspected. So I suppose anything is possible.
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07-12-2022 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TiltPocketAces
Weirdos harassing from the rails are the worst part of poker

just off the picture this guy needs to get put in an institution https://twitter.com/KingAlikMJ23/sta...878208/photo/1
Yeah and that guy is literally crazy. He got thrown out of Foxwoods during a tournament series years ago because he was threatening dealers wanting to fight them. And he's not even tough. Like he is literally crazy.

He has no filter so I could only imagine him standing on the rail yelling repeatedly at Lococo until he had enough. Because that's what this Alik guy does. A total nut case.
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07-12-2022 , 10:43 PM
Is that 77 flop 4bet a bluff?
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07-12-2022 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Neverlucky16
Is that 77 flop 4bet a bluff?
I am confident in saying even she doesn't know the answer to this
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07-12-2022 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
Yeah and that guy is literally crazy. He got thrown out of Foxwoods during a tournament series years ago because he was threatening dealers wanting to fight them. And he's not even tough. Like he is literally crazy.

He has no filter so I could only imagine him standing on the rail yelling repeatedly at Lococo until he had enough. Because that's what this Alik guy does. A total nut case.
I clicked his twitter and scrolled down and it seems likely he's the same person Hellmuth complained about
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07-12-2022 , 10:45 PM
she done made a boo boo
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07-12-2022 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by YeahYou
I clicked his twitter and scrolled down and it seems likely he's the same person Hellmuth complained about
Yeah not surprising. He is just crazy.
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07-12-2022 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TiltPocketAces
Who else besides Kenny Tran and Damian Salas are semi names or notable players left? Looks like yet another year of no names at the FT dragging down mainstream poker again. SIGH.
Lol. The “names” that we talk about in here are names that nobody outside of the poker niche would recognize anyway. Doesn’t make the slightest difference now that it’s no longer on ESPN.
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07-12-2022 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Neverlucky16
Anti sweating Kogel so hard now lol
people who don't stack their chips normally when they have more than dust, are a pet peeve..
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07-12-2022 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
Doesn't meant they can't attempt to change that image.

As for Ferguson (and Lederer and Bitar), I could see the WSOP not caring because those guys effectively cheated at business, not playing poker. As I just stated, the WSOP won't attempt to adjudicate over people who "did bad things," only those who cheat in poker.

It's tough to know what the decisions will be. A few years back, someone high up at the WSOP decided to cover up the Russ Hamilton banner of past champions. He was never proven as a cheat, just highly, highly suspected. So I suppose anything is possible.
I'm sure they did cheat, but I could care less about "banning" them or whatever. If they find a way to cheat the WSOP they'll be banned but otherwise don't see a big issue. You start banning 3-4 people for things, it'll just pile up every year as more and more angry people come forward with their victim stories (not saying this thing isn't legit )
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07-12-2022 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
Yeah and that guy is literally crazy. He got thrown out of Foxwoods during a tournament series years ago because he was threatening dealers wanting to fight them. And he's not even tough. Like he is literally crazy.

He has no filter so I could only imagine him standing on the rail yelling repeatedly at Lococo until he had enough. Because that's what this Alik guy does. A total nut case.
Lameass
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07-12-2022 , 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by YeahYou
I clicked his twitter and scrolled down and it seems likely he's the same person Hellmuth complained about


LMAOOOO I was just about to ask about what happened to that guy who was yelling at Hellmuth at the FT. It's the same guy?!?!?! He needs to start a Youtube page at this rate if his whole schtick is taunting people at the rail looney
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07-12-2022 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Utah_CUtiger
Lol. The “names” that we talk about in here are names that nobody outside of the poker niche would recognize anyway. Doesn’t make the slightest difference now that it’s no longer on ESPN.

I think if that Damian Salas who just won the Main Event got to the FT it'd be a pretty big ****ing deal. Kenny Tran I remember watching him years ago on the poker TV shows


They really need a Matusow, Ivey, Negreanu etc just SOME sort of poker celeb in the top 100 every year like they used to have 10 years or so ago. I guess poker has evolved BOO
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07-12-2022 , 11:01 PM
Lococo making back-to-back final tables would be a fun story.

Marco Johnson is a name that anyone who sweats a lot of poker should recognize.

Antoine Labat finished 9th in 2018.


No A-listers or even B-listers left, but if you just want a good narrative then I guess Lococo is most compelling.

Realistically, it doesn't matter. Poker boom 2.0 isn't coming from this and nothing short of an Ivey/Hellmuth/Negreanu level name would move the needle much for casuals.
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07-12-2022 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DogFace
Lococo making back-to-back final tables would be a fun story.

Marco Johnson is a name that anyone who sweats a lot of poker should recognize.

Antoine Labat finished 9th in 2018.


No A-listers or even B-listers left, but if you just want a good narrative then I guess Lococo is most compelling.

Realistically, it doesn't matter. Poker boom 2.0 isn't coming from this and nothing short of an Ivey/Hellmuth/Negreanu level name would move the needle much for casuals.
Yeah I mean nobody is watching this except for us poker junkies. I miss ESPN.
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07-12-2022 , 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DogFace
Lococo making back-to-back final tables would be a fun story.

Marco Johnson is a name that anyone who sweats a lot of poker should recognize.

Antoine Labat finished 9th in 2018.


No A-listers or even B-listers left, but if you just want a good narrative then I guess Lococo is most compelling.

Realistically, it doesn't matter. Poker boom 2.0 isn't coming from this and nothing short of an Ivey/Hellmuth/Negreanu level name would move the needle much for casuals.
why do we need a boom who ****ing cares some people just want to watch known players play as opposed to a bunch of no name luckboxes
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07-12-2022 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by theporkchop
why do we need a boom who ****ing cares some people just want to watch known players play as opposed to a bunch of no name luckboxes
Then go watch one of the kajillion high roller events.

The whole point of this one is that it allows for Cinderella runs, and it's likely that many of these guys are great players even if we don't know them.

People like Raymer, Eastgate, Riess, and Cynn were not widely known before they won. All put on an entertaining show.
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07-12-2022 , 11:15 PM
The biggest name and most interesting story is by miles Alejandro Lococo "Papo MC", he just made the final table last year and kinda punted in a massive chiplead pot, in the spanish speaking world battle rap is huge and he is like top 5 in history, he is also a twitch streamer and had tens of thousands of viewers at times, 3 million followers on instagram(more than the rest of the field combined probably)
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07-12-2022 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Neverlucky16
Is that 77 flop 4bet a bluff?
That asian guy who called her with TT looks a hell of a player, his table talk with AcKx when he was bluffing was incredibly relaxed and good. Anyone know who he is?
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07-12-2022 , 11:17 PM
Also what was it that Kenny Tran was getting annoyed about? He said something like if you dont know thats a joke you are a moron (lmao)
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