Isnt datamining and collusion against tos? I can register to runitonce right now- learn about hundreds of any given opponents stats and even how to exploit those stats through the pros themselves aswell as the community chat under the videos. Seems like a great way to ruin a friendly rec enviroment. Why dont they assign a section of security people to monitor the internet and ban these guys, it cant be that hard. Theory videos are one thing but live play without blurring out the opponents is no better than what stinger88 did to isildur imo.

nice 2nd post

your ideas are intriguing to me & i wish to subscribe to your newsletter

Hi Vini!

Yes, it might be possible for you to do that, in which case the site could have grounds to take action against you.

Well, if the poker sites agreed with you that this is a problem, I think the first thing they'd want to do is let training sites know they have an issue with what they're doing and point out how it's against the T&Cs if it is (which I have my doubts about), and if it isn't, make any changes they deem appropriate and let people know about said changes.

It seems like the best place for you to start would be to talk to Stars about this and find out if they share your concerns.

Not sure you have expressed it how I would of, but I agree that RIO etc shouldn't ever talk about specific opponents with their real screen name / HUD stats as they sometimes do. It has always struck me as strange when they do.

one of the smalller, spanish, i think, training sites had a small stakes coach with an "i got you reg!" series back in 2012 where he specifically went through top players games

At the very least, people making training videos should be required to announce at the tables that they are making a training video.

so fish opens table. chat goes: "i do training videos!"

fish instant leaves...

So what? Some pros will instantly leave too. That's the point of the warning.

I've thought about this myself quite a bit (I make videos for DC). It does seem kind of unsporting to pick out regs from the games you play in and explain how to exploit them. There's also the issue of the HUD showing in videos, which gives out a lot of free information on other players. I haven't thought of a great way to address this (blocking out screen names altogether is really hard - it shows up under their avatar, in the chat box, in hud popups, etc), but it's definitely a concern of mine. I think a "reg breakdown" video should certainly be anonymized.

I've taken solace so far in that I make videos mostly at lower stakes where the player pools are large, and also I don't think many of the players that watch my videos play on the same sites that I do (small, American-facing sites). Honestly though, I'm not for getting rid of all videos where other players are analyzed. If you think about it, this happens in every competitive activity. NBA teams watch tape of their opponents and have a bunch of eggheads break down their weaknesses. Chess players review matches of their rivals. Business investors are constantly spying on and copying their successful peers, and there are hundreds of publications that break down how to beat the market. If you're a reg/pro who is going to get analyzed, part of your job is to fashion a game that is very difficult to exploit, and also develop countermeasures against the population who is looking to exploit you.

I wrote a post similar to the OP's on DC a few years ago. Some of the instructors, but not all, agreed that exposing players' games was a problem. Most though, didn't want to go through the trouble of post production to block out players' names.

Review games can always be done in a replayer that can easily allow player names to be disguised. It's the live narrated games that seem to be the big problem.

Even when you think about it,
A plan is only as good as its execution.
Due to extenuating circumstances, it will be dofficult to eliminate the collision.

Likely because poker training sites produce massive amounts of players that take a shot/play more and extend recreational player life cycles. They sell the "Golden Ticket", just subscribe and win, easy game.

Don't feel bad OP, you made it farther than most!

My concern isnt for myself but instead on behalf of recreational players. None of your examples are similar to preying upon the unknowing, publicly and as a group, for money. Also while breaking site tos by sharing data. Not sure if I said that correctly but I think you get my point?

Lol

Exactly. Just another example of why online poker is screwed.

I think it's better for the audience's ability to learn when you have names blurred.

From a business perspective, unless the opponent is very well known, I don't think there's really monetary value in a name being seen during a video.

In SNGs, blurring has become more common with serious training videos in recent years. Most videomakers don't want to let the opponent know they are talking about them and/or want to offend an opponent and consider it respectful to blur.

When there are very little hud stats/pieces of information up (whether reg or rec), videomakers seem to care much less, as you're playing far more readless/default strategy, and you're really the only one giving anything up that "could be exploited" by viewers, though the reality I've experienced has been more lower stakes players from recreational to weaker reg will take a shot and sit you for the "experience" of facing a known videomaker, and that's action you absolutely want.

Rather than this, they should put a stick in between the spokes of collusion teams by removing all the funds-transfer infrastructure.

Yes it would be bad for staking teams too but they should be selling the idea that you win after making regular deposits from your day job, not that you grind nano stakes till someone stakes you.

LÜL

how would that change anything if you can transfer via Neteller just as easily?

Good point.

They need to do other things too, like only export to the result sites quarterly and so on.

Not many people are dumb enough to tell their opponents how they are exploiting them. Coaches are just teaching you how to play in general, and maybe adjust versus certain pools/player types.

And if you are dumb enough to give away your reads and exploits, you will just lose loads of EV.

Ohhhhhi a brother in mind OP.

Finally people waking up. Its too late but still a good sign


Well no, if any it decreases recs life cycles. Recs dont sign up on rio and watch sauce solving some boring hand and discussing it afterwards - they got a life afterall...
Wat it does though is narrowing reg vs reg edges significantly which is in stars interest.

Big question is which of the 2 is more important and if interested in longterm than 1 is more important.