Iveys played **** ton of NLH games over the course of his life, he loves to play teh other games, and NL is nowhere near as proftable as others

lol yeh since playing live automatically makes you play like a ****** right

If you tried to play live with a HUD they call it cheating. Imagine that? Getting extra help in a hand is called cheating somewhere?

He is one of the biggest edge hunters there is.

Its still quite a bit action in the big bet games, and Im sure he would get action as well if he sat HU in either game.

Fill in the blanks on why he is not seating or playing big bet games much online.

PS he is still Poker GOAT

Have you seen his latest vid lol

many nosebleed players don't even use HUDs, no need for it with such a small player pool. Also, there are no (commercial) HUDs for mixed games, where most of his recent losses come from.

He discovered poker is a lot harder when you can't see your opponents hole cards.

If anything could be "solved" would be anything but nl Poker, especially nlhe.


Put Ivey, Antonius, Dwan, Esfandiari, Laak and Forhayley in a nl6max

Lets see how well does Forhayley. He would be the fish

Poker is a sociall game, you must know your competence in order to win. Forhayley would be lost there

what dont you get, he's deadly serious, its kind of common knowledge

Ivey would be known No Home Jerome again if he started battling with Forhaley.

Antonius said in interview that he doesnt play other games in online than mixed because he gets crushed.

Dwan.. was good 5 years ago.

Esfandiari and Laak would get ripped apart in online.

Once you start playing PLO and other mixed games, it becomes extremely difficult to go back to staring at two cards all night.

Antonius said he finds NLHE very boring to play for long periods. Im guessing he only sits when a huge live gsme is going like the televised ones where theres a few whales, a few of his good buddies to talk to, and $5m on the table.

Im sure the legends like phil could beat the games but much like most sports snd such, it gets really hard to put in the effort it takes to stay on top when back in the day people were just giving you money every night.

No since there are quite a few players better in the math/tactical/speed part of the on-line game, and i don't know if he is just stubborn or thinks he can catch up with them, on-line there is no for instance, intimidating stare, and physical tells you have to hide, and no/or much realisation of realising how much money you are playing for, because of the chips you physically have to put in the pot, and that are some of the factors why he is considered the best[or one off] poker-player in the world, he has the perfect combination of fearlessness, skill and intimidating presence optically in many ways IMO.

And if it is his ego? or/and stubbornness? or whatever it is why he doesn't accept that he is not one of the best in the on-line poker games he plays today, i don't know, but hey it is phil ivey and he has a 15 million buffer, before becoming a losing player on-line, but times/players/games change, and not in the advantedge of phil ivey, at least not yet?, well time will tell right?.

always wondered if he would go back and "review" sessions vs opponents

0% chance he holecarded like that scumbag hamilton did, but did anyone win vs him? he had some spooky winrates on old ft

I think 72 is more likely a solved game rather than PLO or NLHE sir!

He is broke. His backers will only stake him for mixed games and 72.

Just kidding, but I'm surprised no one has guessed this yet.

My guess would be because his goals in playing don't involve impressing nvg by taking on and beating their favorite players at nlhe.

The people who play high stakes nlhe online are really really good at it and even if Ivey is the best all around poker player in the world it's going to take him time to get up to speed on how this generation of online pros is playing and figure out how to beat them. And if/when he figures it out it will only be the slimmest of edges and they will probably quit him as soon as they figure out he has the advantage.

Also, playing just NLHE is nowhere near as fun or interesting as playing mixed games and in those games he doesn't need to sacrifice an edge getting up to speed because he's already better than everyone.

POTY

So you're saying Phil Ivey is the best online NLHE player in the world?

Wonder how much forharley would pay in bb/100 to play this game online at say 40k with 100bb+ stacks.

I'm not sure how you got this out of what I posted. I said he would be giving up an edge in nlhe currently. It might be possible that he could become the best if that's where he wanted to focus his energy but I gave some reasons why that probably isn't the best use of his time.

Sadly i doubt that could ever be true, the evolution of nlhe and plo as passed him by, theres no catching up now.

So you're saying you don't think it is currently possible for anyone new to reach the level of today's top pros, even someone who is already in at least the top 100 in the world at online nlhe and is good enough to have adapted his game to have beaten just about everyone he has faced in every variant of poker over the last 15 years?

No i mean the pros who have practically perfected nlhe using gto strategy, is the likes of ivey even capable of transitioning these types of strategy into their game if not then is it possible that the game as passed him by in regards to him competing against the likes of ike, thuritz kostritsyn etc etc, yes i think there are many pros who you would of classed inferior to ivey 6years back who has the capabilities to evolve and has evolved imo past ivey eg douglas polk, thats the big question is he capable of evolving.