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I believe in 2008 you should also throw in him deciding to make Hoss_TBF quit him, then playing him heads-up for days straight, starting out losing then figuring Hoss out and winning it all back plus more until Hoss taps out. That was freakish.

How much did Ivey win from him?

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01-11-2011 , 10:36 AM

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yes because ptr has been around since the dawn of time, and who even said i ever thought he was a fish? I said there was a point in time where he wasnt considered very good by some online players.

when and by whom? Proof? he has been an online winner pretty much from the second he started playing. I think you're making stuff up.

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01-11-2011 , 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ziplok

when and by whom? Proof? he has been an online winner pretty much from the second he started playing. I think you're making stuff up.

It was the general perception a couple of years ago from what I remember.

Here's something about how Ivey was viewed back then:

http://www.deucescracked.com/blogs/j...bout-Phil-Ivey

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01-11-2011 , 02:38 PM

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- 2002 he won three bracelets in one year and people started thinking 'hmm this skinny black dude in a jersey that never says a word must know something'
- 2003 through 2004: makes a ton of WPT final tables, 10th at the main event, word starts to spread
- 2005 makes more WPT final tables and does that stone cold re-re-rebluff at the Monte Carlo Millions and people think 'holy crap, how did he do that'
- 2006 when Andy Beal was raping the rest of their corporations they turned to Phil Ivey, who promptly destroyed him for 16 milly. This was probably when people started calling him the greatest player in the world
- 2006 through 2008: starts playing a ton online, internet kids deride him as terrible and lacking fundamentals, but change their tune when he quickly starts wrecking EVERYONE; finally wins a WPT
- 2009: Announces how he made a ton of bracelet bets and then promptly wins two, makes the November Nine amongst much jizzery within 2+2, as his legend becomes utterly cemented

You missed pre-2002 'this kid Jerome is destroying all the low limit games in AC', great post though.

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01-11-2011 , 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by John Deuce

It was the general perception a couple of years ago from what I remember.

Here's something about how Ivey was viewed back then:

http://www.deucescracked.com/blogs/j...bout-Phil-Ivey

Thanks for the link. Definitely an interesting read.

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01-11-2011 , 02:46 PM

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A fair amount of credit for PI's status has to go to Norman Chad imo. When Phil finished 10th in the ME the year Moneymaker won, Chad was proclaiming him the player to beat (or something along those lines) at that final table. Chad has been constant in his over-the-top praise and man-love for Phil from the beginning of the TV boom.

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01-11-2011 , 02:52 PM

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Chip Reese

this

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When Chip passed away. Him before that. It is like the pope. You hold your title till you die.

and this.

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01-11-2011 , 03:06 PM

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he couldn't have done it without norm!

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01-11-2011 , 03:10 PM

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- 2011: iveys laugh confirmed most baller on the planet

To quote a great man - "So Much Win"

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01-11-2011 , 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by phydaux

You shouldn't use "jizzery" and "cemented" in the same sentance.

No, that's what makes it such a brilliant sentence.

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01-11-2011 , 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by John Deuce

It was the general perception a couple of years ago from what I remember.

Here's something about how Ivey was viewed back then:

http://www.deucescracked.com/blogs/j...bout-Phil-Ivey

Good link, thanks.

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01-11-2011 , 07:18 PM

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Shortly after he exited the womb.

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01-11-2011 , 09:18 PM

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- 2011: iveys laugh confirmed most baller on the planet

what's up with huck's one hand in the front pocket right hand back right pocket?

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01-11-2011 , 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by John Deuce

It was the general perception a couple of years ago from what I remember.

Here's something about how Ivey was viewed back then:

http://www.deucescracked.com/blogs/j...bout-Phil-Ivey

LAWL, brutal downswing=STOP RUNNING LIKE GOD

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01-11-2011 , 10:39 PM

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how much did ivey win? how many hands? variance? is this match being referred to here: http://www.deucescracked.com/blogs/j...bout-Phil-Ivey

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01-11-2011 , 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by in rilievo

this + his Pacman score

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01-11-2011 , 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by John Deuce

It was the general perception a couple of years ago from what I remember.

Here's something about how Ivey was viewed back then:

http://www.deucescracked.com/blogs/j...bout-Phil-Ivey

Did you read this to the end?

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“You’re excited to play Ivey?” I asked. “Isn’t he supposed to be awesome?”

“No, dude!” Emil laughed. “Ivey’s terrible!”

That was it. I had no heroes left. Apparently everyone in the world is terrible at poker.

I stopped asking about who was good and who wasn’t, because I now knew that everyone was terrible. No point in asking. They kept playing Ivey. I think Ivey ended up winning a bunch back from Jay and Emil, (he might have actually finished up against them, six figures isn’t exactly a huge amount at 200/400 and 300/600, it turns out), but I didn’t really pay close attention. Shortly afterwards, Jay and Emil had a brutal downswing at 500/1000 and stopped playing the nosebleeds for a while.

Years later I read an interview somewhere about how Phil Ivey plays online poker. Someone was saying (it might have been Phil Gordon) that, online, Ivey didn’t really care about the money so much, he just wanted to learn how the online hotshots played their game and defeat them. ...

There was a quote in the interview that went something like, “Ivey will sit in and lose a couple hundred thousand to these kids, just to see what they do and why, and then he’ll win it all back and then some.”

I thought to myself, “Wait a minute…”

One day around that time I was hanging out with Emil and some other high stakes players and they were all talking shop: .... But this time, all these high stakes players had nothing but glowing things to say about Ivey, and Ivey’s game.

Even, to my utter amazement, Emil.

....

So on that day, two years later, I asked him again. “Emil, so Ivey’s good?”

Emil must have learned something in those matches against Ivey after I stopped paying attention, because this time Emil said something he’d never said about any player ever before.

“Ivey’s awesome.” Emil grinned, “Ivey’s the Man.”

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01-11-2011 , 11:39 PM

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who cares? phil helmuth has 11 bracelets.

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01-11-2011 , 11:55 PM

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who cares? phil helmuth has 11 bracelets.

who cares phil laak has these?

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01-11-2011 , 11:55 PM

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who cares? phil helmuth has 11 bracelets.

but ivey will catch him, go past him and crush him....and then ainec on bracelet count....

watch that final table WSOP space....

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01-12-2011 , 12:09 AM

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How much of Phil Ivey's advantage comes from who he is? Obviously, so many people respect him, are intimidated by him and consequently don't want to embarrass themselves by making some wild play against him that they might in a similar situation against an unknown or just common adversary.

This probably goes out the window for the toughest high stakes cash games but for tournament play Ivey's image must allow him to make easier decisions.

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01-12-2011 , 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by John Deuce

It was the general perception a couple of years ago from what I remember.

Here's something about how Ivey was viewed back then:

http://www.deucescracked.com/blogs/j...bout-Phil-Ivey

LOOOOL maybe true but then flash forward a few years and KABOOM!!! the man who WAS considered the 'best' but "sucked" suddenly adapts to the online game (like he would any other game) and subsequently crushes the **** out of it. where the **** are jay and emil nowadays???

if im not mistaken Ivey has beaten online poker for more than anyone ever, and has probably done the same in the 'live' poker scene.

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01-12-2011 , 01:11 AM

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I think Phil Ivey has an extra chromosome or something. The guy is freakishly good at poker at all games and all formats.

Anyone ever play with Ivey when he was known as Jerome on here?