The Japanese and many other asian nations are not really any smarter then anyone else or the US. But they do have a MUCH better early education and high school system, where they go to school like LITERALLY 10-15 hours a day and don't have a long summer off.

if we had that in the US and took our education like 200% more seriously, we'd be just as smart or good at math as they are.

the truth is though, the United States IS indeed falling behind educationally. if Obama can't help turn it around, then the republicans get in there next time and they never care about education, so the US will fall from being the most powerful country, in our lifetimes (or "best" country, as many like to say).

completely agree. Malcolm Gladwell in his latest book Outliers actually touches up on this subject. The patience that the Asian culture instill in its youth really has a lasting impact on their ability to achieve for the rest of their lives. The American education system really need to figure out a way to emphasize education and devalue "role models" like loser airheads like Hilton, Spears, Lohan, etc.

u relie on the system for everything

I think what people have to realise is that the average wage in most Asian countries (China etc.) is very very low in comparison to north Europe/USA. Just because your average Chinese gambler gets into poker doesn't mean he'll be sat at $1/$2 reloading as he spunks off buyin after buyin.

What would be much more likely is if poker caught off the richer business men (which make up a smaller proportion of the population-not your average employee) would play and like businessmen world wide would not put the hours and effort in to analyse their game/improve.

So in that respect although the boom may happen, it won't all of a sudden literally flood the market with orientals splashing $ks at MSNL.

im expecting the Asians any minute now

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Is this OP serious?

you didn't answer my question to you. What obvious truth am I making people feel guilty about saying? You might've missed my last post.

You know, I'm not just saying what I'm saying to be PC, I have a lot of research/historical data to back up my opinions, but you are making these generalizations about me without any explanation refuting my arguments. I pretty much can boil your comments down to this- when people discriminate, it's always a joke, so just take it easy. There's no need to defend it even when the stereotype isn't even true, because all stereotypes are true unless you're a PC kinda guy.

I totally agree that people have differences that shouldn't become the pink elephant, but your blanket approach just doesn't cut it.

look, you harped on the guy for pointing out the obvious fact, that not all asian cultures are as advanced as others.

you played out the pity card for these cultures not having the advantages that the other cultures do........demographics, allowed influences etc. etc.

you also pointed out that many of these lesser cultures at one point of time were not behind and were in fact the superior culture.

but the facts are that it is not yesterday any more. we are living in the now.

unfortunately, there are unfair labels you can throw on certain groups of races in which you can categorize "on the most part".

i'm not going to discuss what ive experienced "on the most part" with certain races because it would deem me a racist, i guess?

wether it does or doesnt, i dont see it as a racist thing. i know on the most part what to expect from certain races because its a fact based on many experiences.

do i hate them, no.

but i certainly think they are "behind" when it comes to getting along properly with all members of the tribe.

to turn a blind eye to these things is not advanced human thinking imo.

i do not go out of my way to avoid certain races but i dont go out of my way to bring them into my home either.

protecting our own human interests is one of the qualities that helped get us this far in the first place.

now, what you are basically saying is that people should feel guilty for acknowledging the facts (the negative traits obv) about other races.

wow this thread srsly needs some of this:

My wife

[x] Is asian
[ ] Has a strong work ethic
[ ] Is good at maths
[x] Is a dumb bitch

I feel like your avatar looks, my friend.

Mass poker? In China? With their big-brother-is-watching-you-laws?

Not gonna happen

NSFW THIS **** I ALMOST GOT FIRED

must. watch. more.

slowrolling chinese with quad aces will take over the Worrrrld!

bare terts itt

lulz - for some reason I'm reading Watchmakers responses to 3barrelslinger as Matt Damon in the bar scene from Good Will Hunting.

lol its not patience that our parents are instilling in us. it's fear. ask any non-jungle asian if they've gotten beat for getting a B+.

If they are least likely to gamble in Japan, why is there a Plinko (i think this the name) parlar to gamble in on every other corner there? I saw many of them when I was in Japan. And they even "gambled" for porn using those claw games that we let little kids try and win presents with in America

I didnt read this thread but this idea about luck is ******ed. Read the book outliers "Current New York Best Seller" and fear the coming of the asians.

i've actually thought about this for a while and am wondering why these europeans are taking the poker world by storm when the real gamblers are asian. playing cards are originally a european invention but that was centuries ago. starcraft and online gaming should naturally progress into online poker right?

the vietnamese already have a solid reputation in the poker world and i've been noticing a fair amount of east asians in the online tables so i think it's just a matter of time before you start seeing more koreans and chinese on tv and at the high stakes tables. wasn't there one korean guy to the left of negreanu at the WSOP main event day 1 (and knocked him out)?

There is a couple of reasons to why we don't see many Asians that live in Asia do well in poker:

1. The asians that DO well usually live in the US since before they started gambling. Gambling is illegal in many asian countries.

2. Sure, there may be three billion asians (maybe more?), but 2,9 billion of them make $1 per hour or so.

3. The ones who doesn't make $1 per hour makes $10,000 per hour. There isn't too many middle class asians that have money to gamble with and get good at poker.


No racist btw.

I don't feel great about posting in this thread, but this needs to be said:

SOMEBODY WRITE THIS, PLEASE.

ermmm NO...chinese invented playing cards after they invented paper...