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11-09-2011 , 05:17 AM

#26

evildeadalive

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Best player won

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11-09-2011 , 05:19 AM

#27

furo

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both did their homework getting to HU and both played decent HU poker.
both had their marginal folds/shoves but its kinda hard to play perfect in these situations. (TV, lots of money and the title at stake)

if stazsko wins the Q9s flip he is the ME champ, if he does not brainfart with the Q6s he has a good chance at winning as well.
overall the luckier won but it was not a luck-based win alá Jamie Gold.

GZ PIUS

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11-09-2011 , 05:20 AM

#28

llllzzzz

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Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 36

Antonio Esfandari's analysis was wrong on almost every hand and every street. I can't stand him.

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11-09-2011 , 05:21 AM

#29

baat

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Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 866

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Originally Posted by the village idiot1

Am i the only one that is dumbfounded?

That seemed to be some of the weirdest heads up play ever. I mean both players seemed to be pretty card dead. Altho i think Stazko did get a nice run of cards. Stazkos heads up play seemed somewhat spewy. I was pretty impressed as i thought Hienz was going to walk over Stazko.

Anyone else think Stazkos 4 bet shove w AQo was bad? like i wouldn't mind someone to talk about the hand as i am totally baffled by it.(i would like to think i am a decent heads up player) I thought that would be the bottom of Stazkos range of calling there. Everything else beats Hienz. Anyone agree or disagree.

Hienz did have alot of heart when he had the chips. And i liked the fact that he changed gears quite well when his stack size changed.

Also thought Antonio Esfandari did an awsome job doing the commentary on the play.

are you sure there was such a hand?

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11-09-2011 , 05:21 AM

#30

AQsuited

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I wont go so far as saying Stazko had a great run of cards, he had 8 3 like 50 times it seemed, plus most of his big hands only took the blinds for the most part

and yeah I gotta admit Esfandiari was rather decent as a commentator

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11-09-2011 , 05:23 AM

#31

moki

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Originally Posted by Mark275

ben lamb new wsop biggest blowup for sure, 2day blowup too, surprised he didnt learn from his mistakes, me personally id need to know how someones playing before i 4bet jam, what if staskzo had a "im gonna be super tight early idea in his head" and then 3bet lamb, lamb should know what his players strategy is going in before he jams like that, so bad

Was not a blowup. Staszco had looked a the footage from Sunday, saw how he was getting plowed over by Lamb et al, thus is was reasonable to assume that he would be 3-betting light.

Also given it was the very first hand of the televised 3 player final table match, it was reasonable to assume Staszco wouldn't want to go bust on the first hand. Lots of metagame reasons why a shove with KJo from the BB is quite reasonable, and had fold equity.

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11-09-2011 , 05:26 AM

#32

striiing

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good all round, nice one espn

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11-09-2011 , 05:27 AM

#33

MoneyBoye

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By the way, the hoodie of Heinz is called "Green Zaggy" by Hugo Boss. You can buy it here for example:

http://www.julesb.co.uk/menswear-1/m...y-685632.htm??

Already got mine

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11-09-2011 , 05:28 AM

#34

Klingbard

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I agree with Negreanu (from his tweets tonight) that both Stazsko and Heinz gave off plenty of tells that more experienced live players may have exploited. The quality of play in general was pretty good, but far from flawless.

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11-09-2011 , 05:48 AM

#35

ferVance

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Originally Posted by moki

+1, was thinking all the same. To elaborate on 1 of yer points, it may have been percieved by benba that given the FT history, that staszko was trying to send a message from the outset of 3 handed play (obv by 3 betting light). and yea should be tons of FE on HU bubble.

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11-09-2011 , 05:54 AM

#36

the village idiot1

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Originally Posted by the village idiot1

Anyone else think Hienz 4 bet shove w AQo was bad? like i wouldn't mind someone to talk about the hand as i am totally baffled by it.(i would like to think i am a decent heads up player) I thought that would be the bottom of Stazkos range of calling there. Everything else beats Hienz. Anyone agree or disagree.
was talking about the Qc9c ???thought it was 9c gut shot flush draw hand where stazko 3 bet to 10 million and Hienz shpped w AQ. i might of also got somethings wrong as i was cooking some potatoes in the kitchen at that time as well.

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11-09-2011 , 06:01 AM

#37

baat

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Originally Posted by the village idiot1

heinz 3bet w/AQ,stazsko flatted with Q9cc,flop KsTc7c,heinz cbet little under half pot,stazsko min raised,heinz shipped.i think,it's bad in general but stazsko raise/folded flush draw earlier/live reads..etc.

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11-09-2011 , 07:00 AM

#38

striiing

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he aint Jamie Gold and thats good enough for me

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11-09-2011 , 07:10 AM

#39

MightyVery

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So how many of us insulting the plays of these guys have made enough playing poker that we can comfortably enter a 10k buyin event?

I had a blast watching these guys go at it, and I feel that we have to give them at least some degree of leniency considering they are essentially playing for the poker super bowl, personally televised nationally for the first time. It can't be easy maintaining focus for that amount of time under such conditions.

Huge props to both players, and thanks for the entertainment.

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11-09-2011 , 07:49 AM

#40

Phil9

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,608

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Originally Posted by CallMeCapo

Ben Lamb.. What the ****. One of the ME's all time great collapses, if not THE all time greatest.

Not even top 5 tbh. I can think of numerous collapses worse than Benbas. Hell, he wasn't even chip leader when he went downhill.

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11-09-2011 , 08:22 AM

#41

vladzhuk

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Originally Posted by DonkeySlayer81

Congrats to Pius, not bad for coming in to the FT 7th in chips. When he won the QQ hand against Eoghan deep down I knew he was going to take it down. The better player won.

see the whole HU match...

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11-09-2011 , 09:00 AM

#42

CallMeCapo

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This is what happens when you're all-in with KJo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EprGnEjm2oE

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11-09-2011 , 09:05 AM

#43

jglsd1

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,445

Stazsko made a critical error not calling all in with his FD and a big chip lead...other than that, they both played great.

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11-09-2011 , 09:29 AM

#44

Lucky LITE

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Originally Posted by the village idiot1

Anyone else think Hienz 4 bet shove w AQo was bad? like i wouldn't mind someone to talk about the hand as i am totally baffled by it.(i would like to think i am a decent heads up player) I thought that would be the bottom of Stazkos range of calling there. Everything else beats Hienz. Anyone agree or disagree.
was talking about the Qc9c ???thought it was 9c gut shot flush draw hand where stazko 3 bet to 10 million and Hienz shpped w AQ. i might of also got somethings wrong as i was cooking some potatoes in the kitchen at that time as well.

best part of post

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11-09-2011 , 11:13 AM

#45

PokerFan2008

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Lamb was a complete disaster, The classic shove and pray plan. Way to show your skills Lamb. Just awful...

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11-09-2011 , 11:23 AM

#46

playertee

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Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4,999

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Originally Posted by baat

-o'dea should have finished better
-congratz to heinz,well played.(i'm expecting him to spew his money at nosebleed cashgames)
-phil collins,i just dont understand.
-belize guy,how could he make the FT?
-lamb(pushed little edges hard,i guess)
-stazcko,nice guy.
-makievyski,shame he was short.
-holden,short
-gianetti,loved the way he played the FT like a live cash game.

it was fun to watch,but i'd still prefer railing a cash game with full tilt pros.

Totally agree

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11-09-2011 , 11:32 AM

#47

RedManPlus

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Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,169

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Originally Posted by llllzzzz

Antonio Esfandari's analysis was wrong on almost every hand and every street. I can't stand him.

Antonio and buddy Laak...
Hustle Hollywood types and businessmen...
They do not play on this level.

A FT HU for the ages...
Two gentleman quant savants HTH...
As opposed to a sociopath like Gold...
And "Hollywooding for Jesus" pipsqueak Yang.

Last edited by RedManPlus; 11-09-2011 at 11:37 AM.

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11-09-2011 , 11:40 AM

#48

molinn9

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Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,632

1. I think the best player won but its always very hard to say this little sample.

2. Best hands were kq vs j9 all in bluff on river and 98 check raise all in on river.

3. For poker i think it was by far best Piuz won

4. if they are going to continue with live broadcast i would think there is no more need for nov 9 just give players one day break before the final table and maybe play the final table like 10 hours maximum and continue day after.

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11-09-2011 , 11:42 AM

#49

vandy

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 236

how is a guy coming into the final table 5th~ and finishing 3rd a huge collapse? if this is considered a collapse then what was cheongs just last year? both of which i dont think are collapses at all... just standard high level poker being played.

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11-09-2011 , 11:42 AM

#50

theginger45

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LOL at people saying Lamb's ship with KJo was so bad.

1. These people have no idea of table dynamics etc
2. 4bet shipping KJo can be so unbelievably standard in some spots...nits gonna nit

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