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Originally Posted by mack's
I've always loved the world of nerds, when you're around them anyone with any kind of opinion is a troll or a bully.
If you factor in rake, those 3 put together are breakeven at any stake under 400nl. Bjorn is the only one doing decent against the bot. 17k hand is a pretty decent sample when you factor in that those guys are the top of the pool.
Yet people are still saying that claudico is a clear failure when a lot of 200 and under reg are making good money beating on other regs while paying a lot of rake. Top highstakers would be losing/breaking even vs this bot in the same situation. The truth is that claudico is already a ton better than almost every reg.
Do you know what the rake is at "highstakes" relative to the stakes? Why would "top highstakers" drop down to be in the "same situation" as the 200 and under regs you reference to play this bot? If you are trying to say they would not be winning as much if they were also paying rake, well, duh.
As for the world of nerds, your desire to group players to support a point does not make you a troll or bully to them; simply, misguided.
The mirroring of hands IS significant which is why, if you want to group players to draw a conclusion, you would look at the grouping of Bjorn and Dong who are playing mirrored hands. Both players are winning quite a bit last I looked with the computer playing each others' hands. Now if the bot is able to end up on both Doug and Jason then I would consider that a significant achievement and one that will be noticed by those in the world of poker and AI alike.