Why would either side of this debate (US pros/US gov) care what an international player thought, or how it would affect the profits of someone from another country?

Of course it matters to YOU. I realize that. I'm just saying that within the argument of whether this should be implemented in the U.S., a Euro player's interests would be irrelevant.

Ok fair enuf,wot if other countries who tax their own players and have their own player pool saw this and followed suit like Spain and France!do u not think the international player pool would have a crap pros to fish ratio!its going down a dangerous path,each country has to be all in or all out IMO

this post has done nothing to disabuse of me the notion that everyone who starts a "View:*" titled thread is either trolling or ******ed.

I'm somewhat just guessing, but I don't see this as any likelier than full legalization and it is obviously less desirable.

Also, U.S. tax returns don't distinguish between types of gambling. You can win $70K at poker and deduct $80K of losses at blackjack without specifying. Or you can lose $40K at poker and bink a slot machine for $200K and you show $160K of winnings. Or mostly, as it would work practically, at least 95% of people don't report gambling winnings/losses at all unless they hit something big that causes the casino to get involved in tax reporting.


And as I said:

I'm somewhat just guessing, but I don't see this as any likelier than full legalization and it is obviously less desirable.

States don't have the power to do this. And right now, online gambling seems (to me anyway) to mostly be moving at the state level.

If it starts moving at the federal level, then I think they would be looking at it for everyone.

The idea in the original post will never happen. IMO anyway. But I'd be terribly surprised if it even got significant traction so as to be discussed as a potential bill.

I think the opposite and believe something what Op is proposing would be a lot easier to pass by the fact that it pretty much destroys any opposition.

Now from the perspective of getting something like this actually on the floor of being considered... I doubt the ppa will try to push this as a secondary option because they seemed to have given up on anything but individual state legislation. It would be nice to see the ppa push it and be wrong.

I would have love to see New Jersey make Atlantic City the only area in the state where players could have played on Pokerstars. If New Jersey really wanted to generate monies. They would have let Pokerstars set up shop in Atlantic City.

1) Let Pokerstars buy a existing casino or to brand a poker room.

2) Let all players who reside (not visit or located) in Atlantic City play on the international site.

This would have given Atlantic City a shot in the arm. It would have added to the tax base of this dead or dying community.

Thousands, maybe even in the tens of thousands. Players and their families relocating to Atlantic City to work and grind on Pokerstars. Playing against a worldwide player pool.

Just imagine, a worldwide destination for poker. Satellites to one of the biggest stops. The North American Poker Tour Grand Championships. Hundreds of players from around the world. Coming to Atlantic City for the week.

New Jersey must hate money. Or they must be dumbazzes.

No one would. And I might consider paying taxes again at some point if it was enacted. Let's face it, all the government did with respect to online pros was to conduct a half decade long money laundering/tax evasion master class. Thank you for your service Sam.

This might be the best idea I've ever seen on NVG and it seems to me with a little well placed lobbying there's no reason it shouldn't be legislatively feasible. There are all kinds of analogues to it, government issuing licenses for potentially high risk activities to qualified individuals like buying high explosives, buying/administering anesthetics, transporting nuclear waste.

Idle chatter.

I am somewhat amazed that PokerStars was not permitted to enter the NJ market. It seems to me that the regulators don't understand that PS would be a wormhole to a new universe of infinite rubes with the satellites and every other vessel you mention to transport them and their money to AC.

I guess no one explained it to them.

I might grant you that it is less desirable but I'm not sure from a purely selfish perspective and given the respective likelihoods that I would call it obvious.

Are you sure about that? They do have the power to issue many types of licenses and the UIGEA, the basis of many of the BF indictments iirc, has as a predicate to its violation the breach of state law.

Another new and interesting idea! Very clever, too bad politicians aren't that sharp.