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03-04-2015 , 05:31 PM

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DarkMattersMan

adept

Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 960

Not a good idea. Just entices drunks to empty their life money but more importantly addicts are more at risk.

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03-04-2015 , 05:35 PM

#52

The4thFilm

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 13,472

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Originally Posted by DarkMattersMan

Not a good idea. Just entices drunks to empty their life money but more importantly addicts are more at risk.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

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03-05-2015 , 01:44 AM

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99N3WBz

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Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 53

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Originally Posted by browser2920

where I play, to get a cash advance off a credit card, first you go to the ATM machine and enter info; then it directs you to the cage, where they have to print out a paper check that you sign, and they check you ID, etc. Even for an ATM, it still takes a little time to swipe the card, select account, do you want a receipt, etc, etc, then get your money and receipt.

Who would do all of that stuff at the table? The dealer? Would the game stop while everyone waits for this one guy to do this transaction? Seems to me that would get pretty irritating pretty quick. Especially when you get those people who don't know that ATM cards have daily limits separate from your account balance, and they get declined and insist it's a mistake. I just can't see all that crap going down at the table.

IMO all those people who say "I'll be back" then don't return never have any intention of returning, rather than change their mind during the walk to the machine. It's a face saving measure. If their not back in 5 minutes or so, just have the dealer open up the seat.

+1

#hands/hr is alrdy painfully low. This will most certainly lower that stat. Casinos want to deal as many hands as possible and keep games moving. It's all about the rake. Can't ever see casinos implementing this.

From a player perspective, if this gets a rec player to put up another buyin I can wait a couple minutes, but there are many people who are far less patient. I can see this causing some people to even leave the game. Transaction takes too long and decide to stand up. Seems neutral EV at best

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03-05-2015 , 06:22 AM

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nab76

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 530

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Originally Posted by idun215

This would be a huge problem for any problem gambler. At least when he has to take the 15 yard walk he has time to think about his decision. I also wonder whether there would be a transaction limit because if he pulled out from ATM he can only pull only a certain amount but if he were to swipe a transaction then he could go over his ATM daily limit.

FWIW The bold part is not true, in casinos you can do swipe transactions right at the ATM.

Ya I dunno i just disagree, I think that if a person with a gambling problem is set on re-loading, they are going to reload whether they have to walk to an ATM or not. Plus I think that when most players sit down, they already know what they are going to do if they bust and I just don't see them changing their mind over a short walk to an ATM.

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03-05-2015 , 07:01 AM

#55

DarkMattersMan

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Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 960

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Originally Posted by The4thFilm

You say that like it's a bad thing.

I say that because it is a bad thing. IMO. Its one thing exploiting players weak skills at the tables its a completely different issue when you are taking advantage of wasted patrons who know not what they are doing and compulsive gambling addicts who are also not in a sound frame of mind.
Vulnerable people need to be protected in society.
But I guess that comes down to ones moral and ethical standpoint which is something you cant relate too. Case in point you calling out wsop winner as stupid for donating to a charity.

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03-05-2015 , 07:09 PM

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Howard Beale

Formerly red

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 22,190

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Originally Posted by DarkMattersMan

You sound sincere but taking advantage is what much of poker is about. Once you start worrying if somebody's playing w/ the rent money or is too drunk you don't belong at the table.

There's a player at Casino Arizona's 8-16 limit game who shows up every couple of weeks. He's the most pathetic thing I've ever seen, poker-wise. Re-load after re-load, he loses more than seems possible by playing almost every hand and chasing every draw. He'd be much better off at Black Jack w/ a basic strategy card but nobody is ever going to tell him that. We have to be able to recognize the dark side of poker and accept it.

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