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Old 06-19-2008, 03:45 PM   #1
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view: Phil Ivey the angle-shooter(WSOP bracelet bet)

So obviously when Phil made all of his big $ WSOP bracelet prop bets, he intentionally didn't specify that the WSOP Europe would count. Only after all his bets were made did he make it known that the a WSOP Europe bracelet counted towards the bet.
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Old 06-19-2008, 03:47 PM   #2
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Lol at calling him an ''angle shooter''.

Why does he have to ''specify'' whether or not it should count.

A World series of poker bracelet is a world series of poker bracelet
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Old 06-19-2008, 03:49 PM   #3
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Re: view: Phil Ivey the angle-shooter(WSOP bracelet bet)

[ ] angle-shooter
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Old 06-19-2008, 03:52 PM   #4
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Re: view: Phil Ivey the angle-shooter(WSOP bracelet bet)

wsop europe only had 3 events last year anyway.
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:52 PM   #5
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Re: view: Phil Ivey the angle-shooter(WSOP bracelet bet)

Thats the thing is WSOPE will only be like 5 events at most this year. I understand people are a little mad but they are still getting the WAYY best of it betting at 1.8 to 1 odds on him winning one. Especially since he is starting to realize it isnt as easy as he thought it was gonna be. I think he thought this was gonna be a cakewalk walking through the minefield that is the WSOP fields.
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Old 06-19-2008, 05:03 PM   #6
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Re: view: Phil Ivey the angle-shooter(WSOP bracelet bet)

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[ ] angle-shooter
[X] angle-shooter
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Old 06-19-2008, 05:23 PM   #7
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Old 06-19-2008, 05:28 PM   #8
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Re: view: Phil Ivey the angle-shooter(WSOP bracelet bet)

he is correct though. they are real WSOP bracelets. no argument to be had imo. if you listen to his wording of the bet on Pokerroad it's pretty clear.
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Old 06-19-2008, 05:32 PM   #9
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Re: view: Phil Ivey the angle-shooter(WSOP bracelet bet)

this is new and astonishing news.
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Old 06-19-2008, 05:36 PM   #10
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Re: view: Phil Ivey the angle-shooter(WSOP bracelet bet)

Yeh the WSOPE bracelets definently count. But like I was saying all the bets against him are stil +EV even with Europe included. So I dont see why people are still mad that bet against him they still have the best of it by far.
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:16 PM   #11
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Re: view: Phil Ivey the angle-shooter(WSOP bracelet bet)

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Yeh the WSOPE bracelets definently count. But like I was saying all the bets against him are stil +EV even with Europe included. So I dont see why people are still mad that bet against him they still have the best of it by far.
Next time you get it all in preflop with AA vs KK will you let the dealer put up 6 cards?

It's still +ev for you.
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:19 PM   #12
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Re: view: Phil Ivey the angle-shooter(WSOP bracelet bet)

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Next time you get it all in preflop with AA vs KK will you let the dealer put up 6 cards?

It's still +ev for you.
if the dealer pulled out the rules of holdem and showed you that the board is supposed to be 6 cards you couldn't get too mad about it though right?
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:20 PM   #13
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Re: view: Phil Ivey the angle-shooter(WSOP bracelet bet)

Why not. Pretty sure it would just lower variance
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:49 PM   #14
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:59 PM   #15
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Re: view: Phil Ivey the angle-shooter(WSOP bracelet bet)

whats this bet for 1 to 1.8

how much will he lose if he cant get a bracelet
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:59 PM   #16
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might as well add wsop circuit event bracelets
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:03 PM   #17
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Re: view: Phil Ivey the angle-shooter(WSOP bracelet bet)

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Next time you get it all in preflop with AA vs KK will you let the dealer put up 6 cards?

It's still +ev for you.
uhhh....yea

are you retarded
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:06 PM   #18
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A World series of poker bracelet is a world series of poker bracelet
That's almost an exact quote from Jeffrey Pollack in fact.
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:09 PM   #19
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Re: view: Phil Ivey the angle-shooter(WSOP bracelet bet)

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A World series of poker bracelet is a world series of poker bracelet
Agreed. Why would you need him to specify something like that for the bet when there's no difference between the bracelets handed out at the WSOP and the WSOPE. If the original bet intended that he win his bracelet during the WSOP then he probably would have stated that in the initial stages of the bet.
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:10 PM   #20
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Re: view: Phil Ivey the angle-shooter(WSOP bracelet bet)

Ivey really seems to be manipulating the rules if he wants to include the WSOPE. Anyone who in the middle of a bet tries to bend the rules wouldn't be getting any future action from me.
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:15 PM   #21
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Agreed. Why would you need him to specify something like that for the bet when there's no difference between the bracelets handed out at the WSOP and the WSOPE. If the original bet intended that he win his bracelet during the WSOP then he probably would have stated that in the initial stages of the bet.
Ivey specified the bet was "To win a bracelet this year" Not to win a WSOP bracelet this year. I guess by his reasoning he wouldn't even have to win a bracelet playing poker, he could flip a coin for someone else's bracelet and then tada he;s "won a bracelet"
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:16 PM   #22
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:20 PM   #23
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Re: view: Phil Ivey the angle-shooter(WSOP bracelet bet)

One thing that people aren't bringing up, inclduing Phil, is that if he specified only "winning a bracelet this year", the WPT is also now giving bracelets to all its winners.
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:33 PM   #24
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:55 PM   #25
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Re: view: Phil Ivey the angle-shooter(WSOP bracelet bet)

seriously why would you even take the time to be synical and just be a dick like rockforlight. I just dont understand these people. Why not just not go to the next post if you already know about the news in this post? Just cause you know what is going on in this post doesnt mean everyone does. Not everyone lurks 2+2 like you rockforlight.
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