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just wanna point out something: your contry is broke and the mexican pesos have a better shot at being the world currency in 5 years then the 3rd world us dollar.

so where are people gonna get the money for that "boom". 2004 contained a macroeconomic environment way more open for a "boom"

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11-03-2011 , 09:38 AM

#127

Karak

ELIte

Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 62,726

I don't think there will ever be another boom like the one we experienced in the post-Moneymaker era. U.S. regulation is likely to impose lots of restrictions, costs and other rules which will slow down the integration of poker (or allow some states to opt out of it entirely). Additionally, casinos, imo, will still seek to drive a majority of their customers to their B&M marketplaces.

I do think it will still be a profitable model for the average player, but nothing even remotely close to what we saw in the past.

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11-03-2011 , 09:40 AM

#128

skater3598

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Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,597

the average player isn't profitable

10 million gtd tournaments yo

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11-03-2011 , 09:40 AM

#129

bhuber2010

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 16,332

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Originally Posted by King Fish

The overall number of US players who want to play online poker dwarf those who did play even at its peak. Even before the neteller/firepay shutdown, the majority of US players had no clue how to set up an online account. After the neteller shutdown, only the more savvy players were able to deposit. This skewed the playerpool towards more experienced players.

Couple that with the fact that because it was now significantly harder to deposit, the fish were soon (virtually) eradicated, leaving the sharks to cannibalize themselves. A player who used to be a borderline shark now became them fish. As Darwin reared his ugly head, the games got progressively tougher.

Yes, players got better. But the real factor is that little new blood entered the frenzy. We laugh at people who play Zynga and think they are good cause they beat their home games, but these are the people who will, for the first time, have access to the online games.

Yes, at first they will be horrid, but they will get better. The difference this time will be that as they get better, fresh "fish" will be hatching behind them. And so on an so forth.

With government backing and people feeling it is safe to deposit, IMO not only will there be a second boom, but it will be even bigger than it was back in the Party heydays.

It won't happen overnight, but it will happen. The posters on this site for the most part represent the top 5% of the population regarding poker knowledge, and that includes tards such as myself. Blackgerbil knows more about poker than 95% of the population. So does (god help me for saying this) titanium nuts. Sure, he sucks compared to those that remain, but once the flood gates are open, even he will likely be a profitable player.

The landscape will change, and those who lament not being around pre-2006 will likely get to see what it was like way back when.

Anyway, sorry if I am rambling and if there are tons if typos. Posting from my phone while waiting for my car, and I have no intention of scrolling back to read this overly long diatribe.

good post, I hope this is out it happens

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11-03-2011 , 11:09 AM

#130

TBadr

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,669

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Originally Posted by TheStuntman

Wow, so I'm looking at said zynga forum, apparently there are serious players for play chips http://forums.zynga.com/showthread.php?t=1096154&page=3

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Originally Posted by AcesVsMuck

I wish that 'cold4bet' guy would just stfu

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11-03-2011 , 12:22 PM

#131

CheckRaise_

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Originally Posted by TheStuntman

Wow, so I'm looking at said zynga forum, apparently there are serious players for play chips http://forums.zynga.com/showthread.php?t=1096154&page=3

Though the vast majority don't take it seriously, apparently a very small percentage do, but still zynga players are fishy as hell. I would think if they started playing for money a very small percentage won't be satisfied and thus will be searching for a site like 2+2 to improve their game.

lol, found this on the forum:

"One more thing... I dont think most of the "good" poker players see what I see alot of the times because I actually go places where I can see all cards or I always play it to see cards. I am also going looking for it everytime im on bouncing in and out or lots of different rooms a day. I will have 10 plus million playing in the $100 rooms - I dont know...
Reply With Quote"

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11-03-2011 , 12:24 PM

#132

CheckRaise_

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Originally Posted by TheStuntman

lol, they have a sub-forum called "Bad Beats, Epic Wins and Variance"

sounds familiar

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11-03-2011 , 12:27 PM

#133

Jokko

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,265

Over/under that poker get regulated before world ends in december 2012?

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11-04-2011 , 12:07 AM

#134

Odds_Master

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 139

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Originally Posted by Karak

The MoneyMaker era was a year for all hopeful, energetic, poker enthusiast who thought to themselves, "Hey, I could do that!" Media of poker expanded and the list of major events grew to astonishing numbers. I don't think this regulation issue will decipher whether or not the poker industry will draw in new #'s. Its a weird set of events, and its just shows how the internet has changed thing upside down. Therefore, you have the nation trying to cherry pick which options the best. However, I do think many casino's will adapt to the online version of poker as many American's take a liking to it! But only time will tell

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11-04-2011 , 02:22 AM

#135

ASAP17

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,882

when the social stigma is that poker players are in general degenerates playing a luck based game and that all the stuff about FTP branded as a ponzi scheme and cheating online that developed before and after black friday in the media does nothing to help a boom

I doubt we will see one, and certainly nothing even close to the Moneymaker effect

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11-04-2011 , 02:46 AM

#136

spew4u

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 80

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Originally Posted by GEAUX UL

This.

Just about everyone who wanted to play online poker gave it a try from 03-07.

This couldn't be further from the truth. I am a Dual Rate(dealer/supervisor) in a poker room. I have unfortunately heard countless times, "I don't trust that online poker. Blah Blah Blah." This usually comes from middle aged recreational players who worked hard for their money. Not young, risktaking(or ignorant) players who don't value money in the same way. If online poker is governmently regulated, I'm sure lots of players who were afraid of corruption may be willing to give it a shot.(please save the corrupt government jokes). I know some will still be opposed, but I think it would open the door to lots of dead money.

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11-04-2011 , 03:47 AM

#137

Gioco

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Originally Posted by spew4u

In Italy, legalization opened the door to a huge (the size seems to keep growing and growing daily) pool of new, and mostly bad, players who never played before because of worries about legality, deposits, fraud, etc. Before, most the players were persons with a long term interest in poker; now its everybody. Legalization has some downside but the removal of old stigmas, of possible illegality and the perceived safety of regulated games, has an upside that is far greater.

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11-04-2011 , 05:16 AM

#138

razrback

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Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,138

People are underestimating the power of smooth, easy, click of a button deposits.

I know someone, and Im sure most of you have known the type as well, a man in his 40's, a moderately successful suburbanite, who would deposit $5k a week into Party Poker, and week after week he would just torch that money, sometimes in as little as one session.

If this thing goes legal, those weekly depositing whales will gradually return. And for years their numbers will increase. These initial years will be the boom.

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11-04-2011 , 11:50 AM

#139

sluggger5x

John Connor of poker

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,592

After playing a few hundred hours of live poker this summer in a small, Midwest casino, I am convinced that there are millions who will play who never trusted online poker before.

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11-04-2011 , 12:02 PM

#140

breadandbutter

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,407

so what's the status on regulation in the U.S. right now?

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11-05-2011 , 02:25 PM

#141

efficacy

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Originally Posted by sluggger5x

After playing a few hundred hours of live poker this summer in a small, Midwest casino, I am convinced that there are millions who will play who never trusted online poker before.

Was talking to an older fellow yesterday in the CP 30 who sounded like he's been playing live poker for ages. I told him I used to play online to which he replied, "Those games were just full of cheaters and teams of people playing from the same room, right?"

I tried to explain that people are usually caught easily and quickly banned / accounts confiscated, but it felt like he was only half listening at that point.

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11-05-2011 , 03:19 PM

#142

BrickPlz

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Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 127

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Originally Posted by sluggger5x

After playing a few hundred hours of live poker this summer in a small, Midwest casino, I am convinced that there are millions who will play who never trusted online poker before.

+1 i couldnt agree more.

I was actually thinking today on the eve of the main event final table
when the next poker boom will be and when would it be possible
to get record numbers at the wsop again.

I can really see it happening when US get back in again.

Poker is getting so popular now in Eastern europe its growing rapid
but for there to be another boom we need the US get back in.

P.S. Im in the UK and im saying we need you Yanks !!!!

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