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08-05-2018 , 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
Not exactly a great win rate for someone who is supposedly the best heads up player in the world and one of the best 6max players in the world. Still winning, but I expected his win rate to be at least double that before he started the challenge. Maybe it's just a sign of how tough the micros are?
Part of the problem is his screen name is known and higher stakes players are jumping into these games to play him....AND HE’S STILL CRUSHING THEM!!!!
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08-05-2018 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemon93PCTSure
Again I'm not sure where you're getting the "One of the best 6max players in the world" from, Doug never claimed that. Even on Upswing he teaches general approach to poker as a whole and his personal expensive course was a Heads Up one.

He not only barely even contributed to the 6Max mastery course, he hasn't even seen most of it lol.

I'm sure he expected that winrate and this being easier. But to have 3-5bb+/100 streaming without a hud for 2-13 hours at a time while interacting with the chat, people seeing your holecards 5mins later and higher stakes players targeting you, and you not playing the games prior and not even trying to study or run ring games scenarios you shouldn't have any issues with really.
Let’s put it those way, once you get the Upswing Lab, you will never have another losing session, period.
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08-05-2018 , 10:07 AM
^ Your trolling game is weak.
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08-05-2018 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by w00t
^ Your trolling game is weak.
Funny coming from you who posts stuff like this :

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Doug Polk is down on the challenge, and in danger of going busto.
Or can you explain how did you come up with these facts?
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08-05-2018 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by w00t
Does anyone know if Doug deducted $640 from his bankroll for the two $320 entries?

If he didn't, that's blatant cheating.
Well you didn't answer to my questions but I'll answer yours. The 1st one was a ticket and he mentioned that he wont use the winnings from that in the challenge. Or something like that correct me if I'm totally off. And the second he didn't cash. But are you saying he needs to deduct another $320 if so then why?
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08-05-2018 , 10:37 AM
If Doug Polk stated before the first $320 free ticket that the winnings won't count, then he doesn't have to deduct that $320 from the bankroll.

I assume he deducted the "accidental" $320 from the bankroll.
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08-05-2018 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by w00t
If Doug Polk stated before the first $320 free ticket that the winnings won't count, then he doesn't have to deduct that $320 from the bankroll.

I assume he deducted the "accidental" $320 from the bankroll.
He did and he did. Checked from his tweet the bankroll was $1334 before that ticket stream and after the stream it dropped to $1220 even he won one mtt. Obv it's only his words that the ammount wont count if he wins something with the ticket and it all could've been just a masterplan for the accidentally regging the $320 and going for the one time to end the brc.
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08-05-2018 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemon93PCTSure
Again I'm not sure where you're getting the "One of the best 6max players in the world" from, Doug never claimed that. Even on Upswing he teaches general approach to poker as a whole and his personal expensive course was a Heads Up one.

He not only barely even contributed to the 6Max mastery course, he hasn't even seen most of it lol.

I'm sure he expected that winrate and this being easier. But to have 3-5bb+/100 streaming without a hud for 2-13 hours at a time while interacting with the chat, people seeing your holecards 5mins later and higher stakes players targeting you, and you not playing the games prior and not even trying to study or run ring games scenarios you shouldn't have any issues with really.

EDIT: At those stakes you're up against a 10bb/100 rake, with Doug's general non-exploitive approach 3-5bb/100 is beating the competition by 13-15bb/100

The thing about Micros is if you improve your approach overall vs popualation( pre-rake) by mere 20% that's a difference between a solid 5bb/100 winner and 8bb/100 crusher post rake, and small things like knowing the population exploits and analysing hands of the limit Doug won't/can't be bothered to do push you there. So again, I don't see any big issues with how much he wins right now given the conditions and zero preparation/work on his game/pool analysis
Lots of excuses there. He's had plenty of time to adjust to the player pool - a good player is capable of adjusting to their opponents. Those aren't high stakes players targeting him, they are just regular micro stakes regs, lol. I know because I've looked in the lobby and can often see them playing when Doug isn't there.

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Originally Posted by zippyroo
Part of the problem is his screen name is known and higher stakes players are jumping into these games to play him....AND HE’S STILL CRUSHING THEM!!!!
See above. They're just regular micro stakes regs.
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08-05-2018 , 12:06 PM
Can we start a motion to just concede that Doug wins the "let's see how long it takes to bink a donkament" challenge?

I don't know what he'll do next in poker, maybe nothing, but even that is better than watching and reading about someone playing micro mtt's imo.
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08-05-2018 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
Lots of excuses there. He's had plenty of time to adjust to the player pool - a good player is capable of adjusting to their opponents. Those aren't high stakes players targeting him, they are just regular micro stakes regs, lol. I know because I've looked in the lobby and can often see them playing when Doug isn't there.

See above. They're just regular micro stakes regs.
Not high stakes players lol, but there's been NL100 ish guys playing cheaply with Doug.

Also those are not excuses, I've been a microstakes pro and coach for many years (just a coach for last few granted) I'm giving you the facts. Literally everyone underestimates what it takes to complete one of these challenges while streaming to boot, the only people I've seen do it are people that have played close to those stakes recently or are currently and use the "challenge" as motivation (and no active streamers really, maybe the Natural8 challenge had some finishers . Where they put on stream without talking most of the time with very few viwers). And hordes have given up

Doug just had no idea what he's getting himself into :]

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08-05-2018 , 12:38 PM
Next person to accuse DP of cheating, I’ll break his neck.
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08-05-2018 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by zippyroo
Next person to accuse DP of cheating, I’ll break his neck.
Let's get back to the endless arguing. No need for internet threats of violence.

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08-05-2018 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by whosnext
Let's get back to the endless arguing. No need for internet threats of violence.

Good point. Can we continue to brag on Doug’s behalf about his success with the ladies though?
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08-05-2018 , 07:23 PM
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08-05-2018 , 08:02 PM
Didn’t know paying for ladies made you a “ladies man”

Zippy care to explain?
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08-05-2018 , 08:22 PM
I'm pretty sure this photo is from the year he entered the women WSOP tourney? did you pay $10k to enter or was it before they increased it DP?

How much did she charge for DP btw DP?

so many questions DP...........
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08-05-2018 , 11:47 PM
Doug is now finding some rhythm again in the BRC, another MTT win and playing some 10c/20c NLHE which is the correct stake for his roll. He took a shot at one $50 Buy In MTT which didn't pay off but he balanced this by playing 15 to 20 <$10 MTTs.

One thing is for sure, if people tell him he can't do something he's clearly the kind of person who will do everything to prove them wrong.

If he sticks fairly closely to proper BRM, with occasional measured but not irresponsible shot taking, the $10K will be a cert.
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08-06-2018 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SageDonkey
Doug is now finding some rhythm again in the BRC, another MTT win and playing some 10c/20c NLHE which is the correct stake for his roll. He took a shot at one $50 Buy In MTT which didn't pay off but he balanced this by playing 15 to 20 <$10 MTTs.

One thing is for sure, if people tell him he can't do something he's clearly the kind of person who will do everything to prove them wrong.

If he sticks fairly closely to proper BRM, with occasional measured but not irresponsible shot taking, the $10K will be a cert.
I wonder who has the best chance of winning the SD/DP challenge I put forth now - you keeping to under 100 words per post, or Doug completing his b/r challenge within the same period of time?
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08-06-2018 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SageDonkey
Doug is now finding some rhythm again in the BRC, another MTT win and playing some 10c/20c NLHE which is the correct stake for his roll. He took a shot at one $50 Buy In MTT which didn't pay off but he balanced this by playing 15 to 20 <$10 MTTs.

One thing is for sure, if people tell him he can't do something he's clearly the kind of person who will do everything to prove them wrong.

If he sticks fairly closely to proper BRM, with occasional measured but not irresponsible shot taking, the $10K will be a cert.
I busted him twice in a rebuy tourney today. Good times.
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08-06-2018 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by MikkeD
I wonder who has the best chance of winning the SD/DP challenge I put forth now - you keeping to under 100 words per post, or Doug completing his b/r challenge within the same period of time?
I would say Doug > me.

Fwiw, for this BRC, shot taking in MTTs is way safer and has a superior risk v reward profile than shot taking in cash games because it's only one buy in and a potential big spike upwards for the roll.

They would be more equal risk wise if Doug did a strict one buy in shot at cash games, but he tends to do multiple buy ins or multi tabling.

Irresponsible cash games shot taking is the only thing that can potentially cause this BRC to fail or to drag on way too long.
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08-06-2018 , 01:39 AM
SD already failed, all his posts are 100 words, where he's supposed to keep it under that
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08-06-2018 , 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemon93PCTSure
SD already failed, all his posts are 100 words, where he's supposed to keep it under that
Pedantic is only one word!

Nah, the rule is 100 words or less and I will be practicing strict WCM (word count management)
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08-06-2018 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SageDonkey
Doug is now finding some rhythm again in the BRC, another MTT win and playing some 10c/20c NLHE which is the correct stake for his roll. He took a shot at one $50 Buy In MTT which didn't pay off but he balanced this by playing 15 to 20 <$10 MTTs.

One thing is for sure, if people tell him he can't do something he's clearly the kind of person who will do everything to prove them wrong.

If he sticks fairly closely to proper BRM, with occasional measured but not irresponsible shot taking, the $10K will be a cert.
He won a $50 Tourney ticket in a $2 Satellite today. Please stick to the truth or don't post. Thanks.
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08-06-2018 , 06:02 AM
AFAIK he isn't playing cash games in the challenge anymore, just mtts, so this bbs/100 isn't relevant.
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08-06-2018 , 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by happy to be hear
AFAIK he isn't playing cash games in the challenge anymore, just mtts, so this bbs/100 isn't relevant.
The man simply dominates all forms of poker.
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