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10-28-2011 , 05:43 PM
Yeah, if you deposit $ there is a chance( I would set the line at about 7:1 against) that you will lose your investment due to the DOJ or the site running away with it before you are able to get it off through the site, or by a P2P transfer. However, if you don't want to just give $10 or $20 to the PPA, but would rather have fun and participate in passive aggressive activism at the same time, then just deposit 20 bucks and GAMBOOOL. That's all I'm saying. C'mon guys! Let's maybe kinda save poker by playing poker! We can do it! Yeah!
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10-28-2011 , 06:52 PM
Good post needdiaper$.

I was on the fence about playing at these rogue sites. By depositing a small amount of money that you can laugh at if it goes up in smoke from DOJ action or the site running away in to thin air, then what's the big deal? At the end of the day, a couple thousand US players poking around on these sites isn't going to make a noticeable difference in the powers that be for getting legislation through, but it is something... it's something. Like barking with letters to congressmen or facebook posts. That's about all we have for tools to get something done.

Sigh. Depressed. PStars come back! We miss you. Maybe sexually?
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10-28-2011 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by kid poker bs
I was on the fence about playing at these rogue sites. By depositing a small amount of money that you can laugh at if it goes up in smoke from DOJ action or the site running away in to thin air, then what's the big deal? At the end of the day, a couple thousand US players poking around on these sites isn't going to make a noticeable difference in the powers that be for getting legislation through, but it is something... it's something.
My problem with it is what does this prove? Are these "rogue" sites submitting reports to the DOJ saying "Hey, we got 300 new US players this week!"?

I don't see much benefit in a bunch of us putting money on sites just for the sake of doing it.
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10-28-2011 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavyTrev
who covers the player funds if a situation like FTP/Cereus happens again?
Deposit like $50 and run it up on your free time?

That way you don't lose much and if you ever run it up just cash out most and leave small amounts on.
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10-28-2011 , 10:24 PM
I agree with OP.

Obv don't be a dumbass and put your whole roll on a site, but throw a little change on there and gamble it up!!

Min deposit is $20 ffs.
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10-30-2011 , 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by needdiaper$
need diaper money obv its obv

Anyway, all I am saying is do your part. Deposit like 10 bucks somewhere and play a couple hands a couple times a week. If everybody does it, we let them know we are not going away. Next hearing will be like, "zomg new US signups have gazilliondupled since our last hearing. We need regulation." (so obv that will be the exact sentence "they" say)
Screw that chit i said it once and i'll say it again if you want to play on a regulated U.S. site go ahead but there goes at least 33 percent of your profit not to mention ppl are still gonna do the usual cheat, steal and collude all this garbage government has done to us is for themselves not us they can give 2 chits about you and me so what your saying i agree with play on Bodog and merge because i'm telling you all now it won't be any different!!
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10-30-2011 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by dpain
Actually if you listened to the 10/25 hearing these rogue sites are run by terrorist organizations. Fact.
All hearsay and circumstantial but boy imagine if Bin laden owned FTP lmao!!!
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10-30-2011 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by GLUIPERIG
Please, Merge doesn't need any more nit/regs grinding $4NL/$10NL. It's almost not even fun anymore. The only people that are willing to deal with the hassle of loading $$$$ on there are 2+2/DC regs and not your recreational fish. Seriously, last night I was playing a $10NL table and it was like a $5KNL table. Everyone sitting out waiting to see if a fish will sit down and once one did, it was nothing but a bunch of 17/16 nits taking turns stealing blinds.
lol
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10-30-2011 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by georgebushda3rd
All hearsay and circumstantial but boy imagine if Bin laden owned FTP lmao!!!
Shhh. You are not supposed to tell people the real reason we took Bin Laden out.
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10-30-2011 , 12:30 PM
Always same story on 2p2, people wine and bitch but are too lazy to do ****!
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10-30-2011 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
My problem with it is what does this prove? Are these "rogue" sites submitting reports to the DOJ saying "Hey, we got 300 new US players this week!"?

I don't see much benefit in a bunch of us putting money on sites just for the sake of doing it.
I don't think it'll have any impact at all. If you wanna play and risk some amount of money, then do so while understanding the risks. I am. To think this is somehow going to motivate the powers that be to legalize it because people are still doing it just doesn't make much sense.
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10-30-2011 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by knircky
Always same story on 2p2, people wine and bitch but are too lazy to do ****!
Maybe its the wine. Makes me sleepy.

Are you really criticizing people itt for not depositing on every site they possibly can? This isn't the magic path to legal i-poker. I hope you're spending a minute each day doing the daily action plans and writing your own government reps if you're going to be so overly critical of people here.
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10-30-2011 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by needdiaper$
"People are smoking Marihuana right now, we can't do anything to stop them. This bill would simply let us put in place proper protections and help generate tax revenue."
I doubt this kind of argument will change the situation.
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10-30-2011 , 08:41 PM
I doubt signing up for "rogue" sites will change the gov'ts mind, if anything it may keep online poker dead longer in the US, just my opinion tho
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10-30-2011 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Illr1g1nal
Ftp. UB. AP.
Run by Americans, and it was America which caused the collapse of those two sites as well.
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10-30-2011 , 09:18 PM
Didn't US players effectively sign up for rogue sites before BF?

And, post BF why are all those tables on merge now named after US cities?

What rogue sites, other than the merge network (ok yahtay but no-one plays there, ditto everest) are accepting US players?

This OP sounds like bad idea
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10-31-2011 , 10:46 AM
I think it sounds like a good idea if we can get publicity, and I'm not talking just in poker magazines or on poker related websites, but it needs to be us little guys who are standing up, not poker pros.
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10-31-2011 , 06:28 PM
This needs to be done especially by players in states with no explicit ban on playing internet poker.

Remember that according to the DOJ, all online poker sites taking player deposits are "rogue" sites.
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10-31-2011 , 07:54 PM
I'm not in the US, so I don't have to worry about making a stand... but I'd be very reluctant to play on a rogue site. Look at how Pokerstars is behaving. It's being coerced by the DoJ into shutting down accounts of players using VPNs, whether they are American or Martian. Pokerstars is doing everything possible so that - one day - the US Govt will allow Stars to get a licence to accept US players. What are the rogue sites doing? They are flipping the bird at the government. While you might think that's a sentiment worthy of support, I can't exactly see those sites being given the all clear to operate when online poker is finally legal in the US. Once the DoJ has got all it can out of Stars, FTP and UB/AB, it's gonna start picking on the smaller companies. If you're playing on them, you may as well say goodbye to your bankrolls right now.
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10-31-2011 , 09:23 PM
I recently deposited $100 on Merge and am playing micro stakes there, even though i would normally play higher if i were able to trust the site and state of online poker. But i look at it this way. You can spend a hundred dollars really easy having a night out on the town. So i look at this as an opportunity to simply keep practice up for when online poker does get regulated. Once i make a couple hundred i'll withdrawl it, then repeat. I know that there is a chance that i'll never see it again, but i also don't expect to get my money back from a night out on the town either. I live in Memphis, so i get to at least play in Tunica to make ends meet. But, whenever i am at home, being able to play a little online certainly helps the itch a little. As far as it doing anything in the government's eyes to speed up the legalization process, i don't know. Maybe it could help in the sense that there is a big enough demand for it that we are going to do whatever we have to do in order to be able to play. Or maybe it hurts us by making our last options here in the U.S. a bigger target, resulting in the shutdown of these sites as well. Obviously, i don't have a clear stance on this thread's topic either way, because it could very well be a double edged sword.
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11-01-2011 , 03:43 AM
As long as your Rogue site of choice is paying out, why not play? I was playing on mine before BF and never stopped after. I agree with not letting your balance get too big. I can't imagine giving up online poker altogether.

Last edited by HamGB; 11-01-2011 at 03:50 AM.
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11-01-2011 , 05:01 AM
Thread takes an interesting turn when OP scams people in the internet poker transfer thread!
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11-01-2011 , 06:25 AM
Screw you OP I'm not depositing.
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11-01-2011 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Unta8
Thread takes an interesting turn when OP scams people in the internet poker transfer thread!
Thats pretty epic, what an idiot.
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11-01-2011 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Unta8
Thread takes an interesting turn when OP scams people in the internet poker transfer thread!
I don't know if this is a fact or a prediction, but I think the idea is still good. And people need to understand rogue means how the sites are viewed by the government and not what they actually are.
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