Chris F and Howard L were respectable ppl before they got indicted

I'm just waiting for Merge/Cake/Bodog to shut down so we can all laugh at OP

But seriously, are you a shill?

obv level...

Someone didnt watch the hearing.

i didn't think us players could play on ipoker...

He was not talking about his view. He was talking about the view of some in the hearing. When he said fact, he meant it was a fact that some thought like that. Not that it was a fact that rogue sites are run by terrorist organizations.

Are you serious? Yes, we can play. Damn difficult to get money on, but we can play.

OP has a point. No one in their right mind is saying that its a great idea to put your life roll online. However, the more people that can be shown to be currently still playing, the easier it is to show that there is a large market for Ipoker.

Depositing 50 or a hundred bucks lets you get your poker fix and is, in this case, a form of activism.

Having a lot of small depositors could also help show congress that we aren't all a bunch of degens losing the kid's college money.

I took it to be an extremely sarcastic paraphrasing of one of the grand standing committee members' ostensible point of view - that they take for granted completely uncritically that these sites are LOL being manipulated by Al Qaeda or that terrorists or other criminals (drug cartels etc) would somehow want to waste their time trying to launder money through a poker site.

Please, Merge doesn't need any more nit/regs grinding $4NL/$10NL. It's almost not even fun anymore. The only people that are willing to deal with the hassle of loading $$$$ on there are 2+2/DC regs and not your recreational fish. Seriously, last night I was playing a $10NL table and it was like a $5KNL table. Everyone sitting out waiting to see if a fish will sit down and once one did, it was nothing but a bunch of 17/16 nits taking turns stealing blinds.

I think some people are saying "ipoker" to refer to "internet poker," as opposed to the ipoker network... US players cannot play on the ipoker network

What a bunch of BS. Same thing they said abut Iraq, they had WMDs and ties to Al Quaeda that never existed. All they had was one guy who crossed a border into a nation of millions without state consent and hung out for a few monthes, and a camel with sparklers strapped to it's back.

It's a FACT they said this in the hearing...it is not a FACT that terrorist organizations are in the poker business....and even if it was, that's more reason to legalize it.

The only criminals are the government who "outlawed" a game that hurts no one except a fraction of a percent of people...and even those people are willing participants. All fraud and harm is wrong, and I make no excuses for UB, AP, or FTP...but the real criminals, the real mafia, who allowed this to happen by stupidly trying to deny us our rights was the government. Had it of been left legal, or deemed so, to begin with, none of this would have happened. The mafia/government tried to deny us our rights, and suprise, suprise, suprise some sociopaths stepped in and out-mafia'd them.

What happens when you prohibit alcohol? Gangsters take it over. What happens when you prohibit prostitution? Pimps take it over. What happens when you prohibit drugs? Cartels take it over. What happens when you prohibit online poker? Fraudsters take it over.

It's just that simple.

Those hearings are a dog-and-pony show. It's just a way to monopolize online poker for American interests (groups that lobby in $). It's protectionism 101, and it harms the consumer (the players). I watched every second of it, and it all made me sick. The Native American guy crying about his monopoly and special privileges...he wanted a time period to be the "exclusive" provider of online poker and regulation! The Eggert guy saying regulators couldn't question players to see if they understood the game well enough to win at the rates they were winning, or if their winnings were via bots...BS. Senator Barton hit that right on the head! Fair Play was okay I thought...but even she said "terrorists"...BS. D'Amato couldn't answer "what if I get disconnected while playing"...F'n disconnect protect! It already exists D'Amato! The guy wanting my $ to be taxed to pay for services for degens...degen gamblers only represent less than a half percent (.4%) of all gamblers! They don't deserve a bailout! Their lesson IS losing everything! Go to Gambler's Anonymous like every other degen! And the bald guy with the comb mustache...his studies weren't even largely relevant!

OMFG, sometimes I wonder how people can watch the same thing as I do and see something of substance and not what it is...a sham. Some of you want legality at any cost...even if that means time limits on play, rakes and taxes so large no pro can make a living at it, etc., etc...it'll make the game useless to play for anyone. How can you have limits on time when 36 hour marathon sessions ARE poker? What's the challenge of playing all suck players, and never having any pros? They kept saying "pros "prey" on worse players"...well no **** Sherlocke, that's why the lesser players are fish, and the pros are sharks! That's F'n poker for God's sake!

Mark my words...if these panelists get their way, they'll ruin the game forever online.

The game is already taxed! You pay taxes on your paycheck which is deposited to play. I pay taxes on my winnings, not as I withdrawal them, but as I WIN them as per the tax laws. It's called a Schedule C small business and income tax! Now they want to tax your deposits, and my withdrawals too? WTF???!!!!

Wake up guys. FAST.

I do believe if you think something is against your right, you should fight it and even if you end up in jail but to a certain degree.

Playing with the min deposit and a rogue site doesn't seem like a bad idea if it get's the message out.

I thought it was need diapers. Haven't slept though (just an excuse )

Sorry, man, but this won't work. Fighting futile wars doesn't seem to bother law enforcement in this country. Ever heard of the war on drugs? We're all still getting high but that doesn't stop them from busting us. What's more, even the staunchest fighter vs. drugs will tell you that they're not even making a dent. Yet they continue. There are multiple reasons for this, but I don't think this idea of the OP's has any chance of making any kind of positive impact.

Gluiperig, I know exactly what you mean about Merge. I switched to PLO. I was still winning a bit, but damn its no fun when there's never any action. You always have action in PLO and there's still a lot of people that are really bad, (I know this because even I'm able to win and I'm a total PLO noob). This was already a bit of a problem on Stars before they left (though not as severe b/c of huge player pool) but they added deep ante games, which helped. I now play NL elsewhere while I wait for the meager profit I made grinding through the totally torturous gauntlet of nits.

I thought it meant "need diaper money" on the first glance, myself. The context gives it away.

But that said, it is funny that the OP didn't realize it could be taken in a more unflattering way when trying to pick a cool SN.

i'm not sure why one is worse than the other, tbh. isn't needing money for diapers basically the same as needing diapers? the only difference really is that one involves more work. i guess for some reason needing diapers seems to imply needing diapers for yourself, whereas needing diaper money seems to imply needing money to buy diapers for someone else, but i'm not really sure why that is.

#OCCUPYROGUEPOKERSITEZ

also need money for diapers for self

But don't you see? If we give his sites moar diapermoniez, he can gambool it up to 10x and then buy more diapers for the moniez. Think of it more as "needdiaperstake$"

Thanks, OP, for being a thinker. There should be more thinkers in a large poker community.

I haven't encouraged people to deposit on the remaining sites because there is the risk of losing your money. (There's somthing reallyyyyy ironic about that sentence.)

However, I am on Merge and Bodog as one form of rebellion against The Man. I do not keep life-changing funds on either site due to the risk of losing it to the site itself, the payment processors, or the government. But I am there. And I will stay there until this is over one way or the other.

Occupy Pokerz!

Yeah my point was that someone in the hearing actually said that "some of these online poker sites are run by terrorist organizations" and from her testimony she seemed to truly believe that. Yes it was sarcasm and of course I dont believe that in anyway. Just pointing out that it is a joke that people who are in a government hearing even think like this and shows that we have a long way to go to get something legalized if this is the type of education these committee members have in regards to online poker.

I did the same thing on Merge the week after BF. Small amount on Merge that's not life-changing, but I will play there until things are resolved here in the US or they get shut down. And if they get taken down, I will look for another site! lol Occupy Pokerz!

Yeah, Cake's great until one of their skins lets somebody gambol it up with $60k and then confiscates it from the dude that won it.

and off