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02-01-2012 , 05:23 PM

#76

TBadr

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Originally Posted by nizzwsop

some are just frowned upon by our society and its completely ludacris IMO. Just my 2 cents.

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02-01-2012 , 05:40 PM

#77

R*R

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There are many addictive and costly hobbies online and otherwise. Should they all be banned. What do you choose to ban?

I have a friend that has a decent art collection but it has cost alot of money and he may lose money in the end. Has his family suffered because of his obsession? Possibly. Maybe we should ban art collections. While we are at it lets ban art altogether.

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02-01-2012 , 05:59 PM

#78

Zolzan

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One thing op is missing is the fact the a true gambling addict is still losing just as much money as before, just whatever percentage use to go to online poker is now funneled to sports bets, ponies, dogs, etc. BF didnt help any degens, just inconvenienced them. Btw online poker/sports betting is still available to anyone with a google and a will to piss away $$$.

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02-01-2012 , 06:07 PM

#79

boohaa12

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i was making 100k/yr on my terms, my hours.

im now making 45k/yr on a company's terms and hours.

+ there some othe sap who is without a job, cause i just took 1 more job out of the "job market"
FML and **** that unemployed guys life who would kill for my job. lose lose

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02-01-2012 , 06:25 PM

#80

CheckRaise_

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these threads are stupid

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02-01-2012 , 06:37 PM

#81

grenzen

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Op your view on this is really polarized to the exception and not the rule.

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02-01-2012 , 06:54 PM

#82

ThatsWhatIDo

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Op how much did you lose?

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02-01-2012 , 07:06 PM

#83

Chargers In 09

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OP you're pretty much everything that everybody was bitching about since before UIGEA happened. Do you feel comfortable when the government tells you how to spend your money? Do you think all good food should be taken away because people overeat? Liquor? How about people driving? People can die crossing the street maybe we should stay in the home all the time. Yep we should stay in our little box not taking chances at all because there's that 5% or whatever ****ing it all up.

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02-01-2012 , 07:27 PM

#84

Spad3s

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Originally Posted by Chargers In 09

These are relatively silly questions, but if what youre trying to ask is do I think certain things should be made illegal to protect people, yes I do.
But in the case of food, liquor and driving, no.

Do I think the government should ban online poker?, Id prefer not, but looking at the bigger picture I do think it will generally help more people then it will hurt. But its never black and white, there is a lot of factors to consider.

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02-01-2012 , 07:42 PM

#85

betgrinders

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Black Friday has been great for live poker. Tons of online degens fishing up the games, so much so that if I didn't consider it immoral of the government to decide what's moral, I'd oppose legalizing online poker.

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02-01-2012 , 07:45 PM

#86

boohaa12

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Originally Posted by Spad3s

Youd be better off arguing about the US failing economy, and the GDP-drain offshore poker operators created in a zero sum game related to the global economy.

But then again based on your OP u have no idea what im talking about.

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02-01-2012 , 07:56 PM

#87

CaliStyle

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Point is not valid at all. Degens are always going to find a way to degen until they admit it to themselves and get help or someone steps in and steers them in the right direction. A few online poker sites getting shut down is not going to change that. Black Friday may have forced a break for a few players that would have otherwise not taken a much needed vacation to let their engines cool off but other than that it was not handled well and put lots of people in a bad situation.

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02-01-2012 , 08:08 PM

#88

BlackStar9

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I'm glad BF happened because the fallout showed me how many idiots were a) marginal players thinking they were going to break into the big time and b) conning themselves into thinking they were winning players.

And that makes me LOL.

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02-01-2012 , 08:19 PM

#89

boohaa12

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Originally Posted by BlackStar9

I'm glad BF happened because the fallout showed me how many idiots were a) marginal players thinking they were going to break into the big time and b) conning themselves into thinking they were winning players.

And that makes me LOL.

how has BF "Shown" you this?

b) pre-bf you were either a winning player or you were not... i have no idea what your B point is.

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02-01-2012 , 08:26 PM

#90

Salamander0

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Originally Posted by boohaa12

how has BF "Shown" you this?

b) pre-bf you were either a winning player or you were not... i have no idea what your B point is.

it just makes him feel good about himself to try and belittle low/midstakes grinders like myself.

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02-01-2012 , 08:32 PM

#91

clfst17

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Originally Posted by Debaser

Those who blow their life savings are probably degenerate gamblers, not addicted to poker. Should we outlaw all forms of gambling to keep them safe?

What about cigarettes and alcohol?

Yes, we should. If your personal well-being comes down to cigarettes, alcohol, or gambling, screw you, the rest of society can get along just fine without you.

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02-01-2012 , 08:39 PM

#92

kevinb1983

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Originally Posted by clfst17

Yes, we should. If your personal well-being comes down to cigarettes, alcohol, or gambling, screw you, the rest of society can get along just fine without you.

Woteva, if your personal well-being comes down to not smoking, not drinking and not gambling, screw you, the rest of society can get along just fine without you!

I mean seriously, get over yourself. Your not righteous, your just an a hole who thinks your **** don't stink. But it does..

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02-01-2012 , 09:19 PM

#93

newschool2

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I play in live home games now, in my relatively small town there is a game going every nite of the week at 1/2 and higher. Many of the players speak of how they miss playing online lol. I find that funny because: Without exaggerating, every single person I've played against was really bad and was no possibly winning online (in cash games atleast). OP's logic is completely off base, anyone with a problem will trade one addiction for another. If they aren't playing online, they are playing somewhere else, that is for sure.

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02-01-2012 , 09:33 PM

#94

AllBlackDan

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Originally Posted by raju

Forget about poker for a moment, this is about personal freedom. America changed what personal freedom is on black friday & the way that bill got passed is total wtf. - So no, black friday was a good day for exactly nobody, whether you play poker or not.

This

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02-01-2012 , 10:00 PM

#95

ArtySmokes

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"When the Nazis arrested the Communists, I said nothing; after all, I was not a Communist.
When they locked up the Social Democrats, I said nothing; after all, I was not a Social Democrat.
When they arrested the trade unionists, I said nothing; after all, I was not a trade unionist.
When they arrested the Jews, I said nothing; after all, I was not a Jew." (Martin Niemöller)

When they shut down the poker sites, I said "Gee, that's a great idea! I really love the government cracking down on individual freedoms!"

If you don't stand up for something, you'll fall for anything.

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02-01-2012 , 10:17 PM

#96

playadelCHI

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to the op - you are an idiot

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02-01-2012 , 10:37 PM

#97

Gankstar

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These threads on how degens need coddling like itty widdy babies just draw statist sadists like flies to ****.

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Yes , we should (as in yes we should BAN). If your personal well-being comes down to cigarettes, alcohol, or gambling, screw you, the rest of society can get along just fine without you.

(Bolded part was added for clarification.)

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you...a sadistic statist.

Society can suck my bawlz. There is no such thing as "society"...it's just a collection of individuals. Every evil in history had been perpetrated for the good of the collective; society. Black Friday for example. Got to protect those degens!

6% of all gamblers are degens, 94% are NOT degens.

The degens can suck my bawlz.

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02-01-2012 , 11:35 PM

#98

timjcarroll81

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Originally Posted by Debaser

Those who blow their life savings are probably degenerate gamblers, not addicted to poker. Should we outlaw all forms of gambling to keep them safe?

What about cigarettes and alcohol?

Cigarettes should absolutely be outlawed. Not only do smokers destroy their own lungs, but poison others as well. Alcohol shouldnt get outlawed of course because when enjoyed responsibly, it does little harm. Poker falls in the same category as alcohol. 10 percent or so of the people who engage in it, do it wrecklessly. Those people have their own issues that they need to work out, and its not up to the rest of the world to babysit them.

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02-01-2012 , 11:36 PM

#99

Chuck504

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Loosing player?

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02-01-2012 , 11:40 PM

#100

DCD

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It was a good day for me. To the toon of about 8K a year.

Took a month to get over the desire to play everyday.

I didn't replace poker with any other vices so it was a net win.

That said, I do not agree that the government should have banned it.

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