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07-26-2014 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by limon
you gotta have the mindset that youll eat and sleep the investment. if you go into it thinking youll "set it and forget it" youll likey fail. If you accept its gonna be a **** ton of hassles and youll end up stuck with it then youre freerolling.

Of course you could always buy a diversified dividend portfolio but you need a massive amount of money to start with to have that income be significant.
Ball park 'a massive amount of money' for me, I'm just curious!
07-26-2014 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by twalf
Ball park 'a massive amount of money' for me, I'm just curious!
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dividend+calculator
07-26-2014 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by twalf
Ball park 'a massive amount of money' for me, I'm just curious!
Let's say you have all high dividend paying stocks that pay say 5% and if you want to be like Bart and make more than top $10-$20 NL guys with your business that's minimum $200,000 so $4,000,000 @ 5% = $200,000.

Limon says there are ways to do much better than that, so what $2,000,000 @ 10% = $200,000? or $1,000,000 @ 20% = $200,000? Pretty hard to generate 20% income return from an investment that is reasonably safe unless you use lots of leverage which increases risk. If you throw in sweat equity so that your return is really part the work and smarts you put in that is probably doable but I'm sure you have to spends a lot of time that cuts in to to your poker win rate time.

Just like poker 2006 some people start out with some real run good in these types of things in the beginning taking out sized risks while being under bank rolled. Others only have an old menu to show. I have heard others who took the slow steady approach in forsaking present returns to accumulate and pay off multi family properties that throw off lots of cash when paid off.
07-26-2014 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by limon
golf is much different from poker in that its exercise, its a good walk, its a way to get out of the house. its the same in many of the social aspects that why the "practice" thing is sorta a load of BS. Dudes say they are trying to get better but they are really just looking for an excuse to say they "earned" a couple beers.

13yr old asian kids are striving to get better. their parents drop them off at the course at 7am and pick them up at 7pm. these kids never stop hitting balls or putting or hitting sand shots. my fat buddies buy a $600 closed driver to eliminate a slice. not exactly striving. most people get a couple lessons and quit thats why 99% of golf coaches make bupkis. People have appx. the same avg. handicaps now as they did 50 years ago. the actual percentage of semi regular golfers who are grinding with coaches and make a concerted systematic effort to get their handicap down is infinitesimal.

moving on, games have gotten tougher because the economy collapsed. period. full stop. In 2007 there woulda been 14 to 15 5/10nl+ games running at the commerce right now on a friday eve what is there today? 3? there are ZERO 10-20+ nl at commerce right now according to bravo! you take 15 games and reduce/jam them into 3 and of course the games will suck no matter where the players came from.

If tomorrow banks were allowed to give fog the glass loans to any ****up who walked to the window and then bundle and sell those loans to iceland there would be five 10/20nls running now early on a friday at commerce and other bigger games as well, with more starting as the night went on, just like during the boom. thats a fact.

as for me i play nearly exclusively PLO (10-20equiv) nearly exclusively at the bicycle casino for the last 3.6 years. im sorta banned from commerce. come buy sometime, i buy drinks for the table whenever asked.
So is Limon Bart Hanson? Or is he JCW? Or is he someone different? You def do not play 10-20 at commerce either way anymore. Also players who you would probably describe as ultra online fish (gman or pralad or whoever) are the biggest crushers in those big live nlh games at commerce.

Also lol at playing the equivalent stakes plo game at the bike??? So you play once a month now??
07-26-2014 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximose1
So is Limon Bart Hanson? Or is he JCW? Or is he someone different? You def do not play 10-20 at commerce either way anymore. Also players who you would probably describe as ultra online fish (gman or pralad or whoever) are the biggest crushers in those big live nlh games at commerce.

Also lol at playing the equivalent stakes plo game at the bike??? So you play once a month now??
If you want to bad mouth limon I can point you to a thread where you will find your brethren in denial.
07-26-2014 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximose1
So is Limon Bart Hanson? Or is he JCW? Or is he someone different? You def do not play 10-20 at commerce either way anymore. Also players who you would probably describe as ultra online fish (gman or pralad or whoever) are the biggest crushers in those big live nlh games at commerce.

Also lol at playing the equivalent stakes plo game at the bike??? So you play once a month now??
I'm sure Limon would welcome you with open arms to his PLO game at the Bike. It runs daily. Please report back after you crush the game.
07-26-2014 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BulltexasATM
I'm sure Limon would welcome you with open arms to his PLO game at the Bike. It runs daily. Please report back after you crush the game.
LOL you are such a joke. Its 8:20pm on a Saturday right now, guess how many PLO tables the Bike has running right now??? Whats that? 0 you say??? Get a grip on reality.

Not talking trash on Limon, honestly curious who it is but its just funny that he says online guys get crushed in the live nlh games when the biggest winners are online guys for the most part.
07-26-2014 , 11:36 PM
He's a guy named Abe with Sideshow Bob-seque hair who plays live in LA and had some very entertaining podcasts with Bart.


https://twitter.com/limonpoker/
07-26-2014 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximose1
So is Limon Bart Hanson? Or is he JCW? Or is he someone different? You def do not play 10-20 at commerce either way anymore. Also players who you would probably describe as ultra online fish (gman or pralad or whoever) are the biggest crushers in those big live nlh games at commerce.

Also lol at playing the equivalent stakes plo game at the bike??? So you play once a month now??
Limon hosts the PLO game @ the Bike, so he has a good handle on when it runs.

Pretty sure no one called gman or pralad fish (they are far from it).
07-26-2014 , 11:55 PM
First of all... How does some guy host a game? Unless he is the floor man guy then I never heard of that... Second of all... Limon, I bet you're a pretty cool guy... I know you mentioned your podcast and I wouldn't mind checking it out, but can I get a link to one? Hopefully one where I don't have to go sign up for anything... We are owning this thread by the way Limon...
07-26-2014 , 11:58 PM
I AM CHECKING OUT THE SITE AND I AM GONNA START CRUSHING LIVE POKER...
07-27-2014 , 12:01 AM
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Dudes say they are trying to get better but they are really just looking for an excuse to say they "earned" a couple beers.

13yr old asian kids are striving to get better. their parents drop them off at the course at 7am and pick them up at 7pm. these kids never stop hitting balls or putting or hitting sand shots. my fat buddies buy a $600 closed driver to eliminate a slice. not exactly striving. most people get a couple lessons and quit thats why 99% of golf coaches make bupkis. People have appx. the same avg. handicaps now as they did 50 years ago. the actual percentage of semi regular golfers who are grinding with coaches and make a concerted systematic effort to get their handicap down is infinitesimal.
Which one am I? Not asian not fat and haven't upgraded equipment much yet.
07-27-2014 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Christ, De 'Berg!
He's a guy named Abe with Sideshow Bob-seque hair who plays live in LA and had some very entertaining podcasts with Bart.


https://twitter.com/limonpoker/
Hahah no way! That guy is the man and always pestering people for PLO and or higher stakes. Carry on Limon.
07-27-2014 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Vegan
First of all... How does some guy host a game? Unless he is the floor man guy then I never heard of that... Second of all... Limon, I bet you're a pretty cool guy... I know you mentioned your podcast and I wouldn't mind checking it out, but can I get a link to one? Hopefully one where I don't have to go sign up for anything... We are owning this thread by the way Limon...
Limon has a code you can use to get 1 month free.
Limon became a host and is the nut host and has the nut deal because he is different than other hosts:
He is over rolled
He wins in the game
He makes playing in a game that he is in way more fun
He gets people in the door and sitting
Who else can get the cards in the air via a cell phone in a golf cart from Puerto rico?
07-27-2014 , 12:42 AM
Thanks for the offer, but I don't like signing up for stuff cuz I'm a rebel... Maybe I will change my mind sometime... I might have you guys and Bat Hanson take me under your wings...
07-27-2014 , 12:48 AM
Limon has really completely owned us online guys. We seem to making his point for him. Top online guys like gman and prahlad were able to make the transition but everyone else fell flat on their face.
07-27-2014 , 12:57 AM
Part of that reason I believe is because live poker is 100% random and online sites have their own little RNG traits and sometimes a players style just works good with the RNG and sometimes they play the software good and win and then fail when they play real poker...
07-27-2014 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by GrindPokerAllDay
Limon has really completely owned us online guys. We seem to making his point for him. Top online guys like gman and prahlad were able to make the transition but everyone else fell flat on their face.
Are you using "us" like a pro sports fan says "we're gunna be really strong this year"?
07-27-2014 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Vegan
Part of that reason I believe is because live poker is 100% random and online sites have their own little RNG traits and sometimes a players style just works good with the RNG and sometimes they play the software good and win and then fail when they play real poker...
you're gonna fit in great at live poker
07-27-2014 , 01:12 AM
Yea, maybe... I am a winner live and had good results and I think I would be playing for a living if I didn't have a couple personal reasons stopping me from doing it... Thank you for your sarcastic assumpshin though buddy...
07-27-2014 , 01:14 AM
You have awesome hair Limon...
07-27-2014 , 01:14 AM
Vegan your sample size is too small to know if you are really a winner.
07-27-2014 , 01:15 AM
The first year I subscribed to various Bart Hanson podcasts I learned an insane amount about poker. The trivial $20 something I paid a month has been an amazing investment. Since then it became a little stagnate but I still listened to stay sharp and for the occasional golden nugget of info, although partly for entertainment value. There's also a lot to be said for listening to his podcasts to exploit his listeners; who's playing style seems ubiquitous at times.
Furthermore, Limon is basically the sh*t. I love his solo podcasts on CLP and he's obviously a very smart and entertaining guy who's played poker professionally for a long time. Although, for me, his down side is that he can have DJ-like ego qualities when faced with stupid questions or a personal attack, but I generally just chalk that up to him wanting to entertain. So while ultimately it's hard to visualize a guy with ego issues (yes, Limon) not letting it creep onto the table, if anyone can pull it off its him. He understands his image on and off the table.
Lastly, yes Bart is a great teacher.
Yes, Bart is a solid winning player.
07-27-2014 , 01:15 AM
No it's not... This is not online shenanigans where it takes millions of hands to overcome the RNG to see if you are a winning player... I've been playing for 12 years and I know how to play... I know me, not you...
07-27-2014 , 01:19 AM
12 years of live. What is that, like 1000 hands? That is a tiny sample size. Need at least 200k hands to give a reasonable idea of how good you are. They need to be recent hands played in the past year because the game is always changing and evolving.

      
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