Hi,
I hear on the street that online poker is about 12-18 months from disappearing completely because of all the complaints to the government, and against the rigged sites.
True? I hope not, because a lot of money is still in "The System" and will most likely just be absorbed by the technical people on the islands where the servers and illegal accounts are.
How many of you keep more than $1000 on the sites? Do you withdraw regularly? That seems the thing to do.
I only play freerolls, just to ensure I'm never scammed. If I want to make actual money, I go take the fishes $$$ down at my work lunch break.
Thanks for your helping advice in advance.
P.S. Which are the most rigged hands to avoid in hold'em? KJ off is the one that Tony C was lol'ing at the russian in the video. -- but he's probably acutally be right about it, right?
Wow, are you serious?
this is now lolcat thread
rigged, gg, game over
I never thought of it this way. So now preplanned hands are rigged. I like it.
This is the same guy who claimed to have been fired for throwing a monitor at somebody and claimed to have a 90k roll online.
So, my conclusion:
ban
...greg? that you?
i hate this threads they are so ****ing pointless
ban
OP, are you going away?
We can only hope...
If online poker has been complained about to government officials it wouldn't surprise me in the least. Whether it's rigged or not (and those who aren't getting screwed wouldn't know about it or admit it), the sites could have been far more proactive in attempting to prevent the criticism.
One way they could do this is by offering and encouraging the use of software to analyze databanks of hand histories. This would go a long way in proving that statistical anomalies in the deal were very far and in-between. But groups of poker players could also act as consumer watchdogs to compile databases and share hand history information in the search for statistical anomalies. Why neither seems to have happened is anybody's guess.
Another way would be to hire large reputable accounting firms, or perhaps college statistics departments, to do an independent analysis of the deals and then do a blind comparison of the results with another organization doing the same thing. As profitable as the online poker business is... they should be able to afford detailed analysis to prove their legitimacy and protect their reputations.
For simple old reasons of greed, and considering the ease with which the sites could manipulate the deal (say in a particular hand with two players who meet criteria A, B, X, Y, & Z), I don't see how or why anyone would completely dismiss the possibility of the sites cheating for their own short-sighted (if not long-term) profit. Big businesses sometimes engage in questionable practices that may or may not end up catching up with them. What strikes me as odd is that many of the players who would doubt the likelihood of rigging probably would still not play other gambling games of chance based upon supposedly random number generators.
I think government regulation of the industry would probably be heavy handed and clumsy (and probably headed by a former lobbyist from within the industry), but the sites are potentially bringing harsh regulation upon themselves by not being more proactively transparent in their general practices of day to day business dealings. And the players have been lax as well by not being more skeptical and analytical. A consumer watchdog group in this industry is desperately needed.
That said... I enjoy the convenience of online poker and hope that certain steps are taken to make the industry more accountable. I think a brand new site that started up with this focus would be highly successful.
lock this thread up befroe he makes more ppl dumber for hving read this.
I'm new to posting here so I'm not sure if I already posted this reply somewhere else in the thread... sorry if I did.
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If online poker has been complained about to government officials it wouldn't surprise me in the least. Whether it's rigged or not (and those who aren't getting screwed wouldn't know about it or admit it), the sites could have been far more proactive in attempting to prevent the criticism.
One way they could do this is by offering and encouraging the use of software to analyze databanks of hand histories. This would go a long way in proving that statistical anomalies in the deal were very far and in-between. But groups of poker players could also act as consumer watchdogs to compile databases and share hand history information in the search for statistical anomalies. Why neither seems to have happened is anybody's guess.
Another way would be to hire large reputable accounting firms, or perhaps college statistics departments, to do an independent analysis of the deals and then do a blind comparison of the results with another organization doing the same thing. As profitable as the online poker business is... they should be able to afford detailed analysis to prove their legitimacy and protect their reputations.
For simple old reasons of greed, and considering the ease with which the sites could manipulate the deal (say in a particular hand with two players who meet criteria A, B, X, Y, & Z), I don't see how or why anyone would completely dismiss the possibility of the sites cheating for their own short-sighted (if not long-term) profit. Big businesses sometimes engage in questionable practices that may or may not end up catching up with them. What strikes me as odd is that many of the players who would doubt the likelihood of rigging probably would still not play other gambling games of chance based upon supposedly random number generators.
I think government regulation of the industry would probably be heavy handed and clumsy (and probably headed by a former lobbyist from within the industry), but the sites are potentially bringing harsh regulation upon themselves by not being more proactively transparent in their general practices of day to day business dealings. And the players have been lax as well by not being more skeptical and analytical. A consumer watchdog group in this industry is desperately needed.
That said... I enjoy the convenience of online poker and hope that certain steps are taken to make the industry more accountable. I think a brand new site that started up with this focus would be highly successful.
One way they could do this is by offering and encouraging the use of software to analyze databanks of hand histories. This would go a long way in proving that statistical anomalies in the deal were very far and in-between. But groups of poker players could also act as consumer watchdogs to compile databases and share hand history information in the search for statistical anomalies. Why neither seems to have happened is anybody's guess.
Simple-sites are set up differnetly- some like tilt and stars make money by having a bunch of nits multiabling passing rake around while others dont like software because they dont want their sites to be overrun with nits shredding the fish faster.
Additionally I have never heard anyone from the us govt say they had a problem with online poker because they dont trust that the deal is random. that is a non issue.