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05-11-2008 , 10:59 PM
Brad is RAD, and also an amazing poker player. I wish him success and joy on and off the poker tables.
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05-12-2008 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by btchpleazimcuter
Brad is RAD, and also an amazing poker player. I wish him success and joy on and off the poker tables.
jesus who are you?
i mean not to be mean but i'm not wishing the pope a happy birthday and if i did do you think it would really matteR?
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05-12-2008 , 12:13 AM
if you don't have anything mean or snide or whitty or funny to say... then i don't need to hear what you have to say oh and if its smart well i'll listen to that but this general good happy will? jeeze its cr!p
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05-12-2008 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BT2
yeah, i have no respect for anyone just because they run good in a few live donkaments. beating online cash is the only way to earn my respect as a good poker player.
You are so wrong sir...1 day you will realize this. To make your way through 000's of players to win something with a limited starting stack to begin with takes major skill. Throw in hours of sitting and few breaks it id def one of the hardest challenges.
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05-12-2008 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by salesbeast
You are so wrong sir...1 day you will realize this. To make your way through 000's of players to win something with a limited starting stack to begin with takes major skill. Throw in hours of sitting and few breaks it id def one of the hardest challenges.
yes, jerry yang is one of the greatest poker players in the world.

winning a donkament is impressive, and winning a bunch of them is more impressive. however, that alone is not enough to convince me someone has skillz. for tournies i have to be impressed by their play, not their results. in cash, results are all that matters.
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05-12-2008 , 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Gazillion

But yeah, good players never overbet the pot with huge hands, so it was obvious he was bluffing.
yeah, right.
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05-12-2008 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BT2
yes, jerry yang is one of the greatest poker players in the world.

winning a donkament is impressive, and winning a bunch of them is more impressive. however, that alone is not enough to convince me someone has skillz. for tournies i have to be impressed by their play, not their results. in cash, results are all that matters.
I lol'd.

I've played a considerable amount of online tournaments but now am strictly a cash game player and to be honest I would only judge one's poker prowess by their knowledge in playing 100bb's or deeper. I'm not saying that tournaments are easy, or that I am even near as good as the many excellent online tournament players, but in terms of mental capacity, NL cash is almost infinitely more complicated.
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05-12-2008 , 01:18 AM
Hi,

I hear on the street that online poker is about 12-18 months from disappearing completely because of all the complaints to the government, and against the rigged sites.

True? I hope not, because a lot of money is still in "The System" and will most likely just be absorbed by the technical people on the islands where the servers and illegal accounts are.

How many of you keep more than $1000 on the sites? Do you withdraw regularly? That seems the thing to do.

I only play freerolls, just to ensure I'm never scammed. If I want to make actual money, I go take the fishes $$$ down at my work lunch break.

Thanks for your helping advice in advance.

P.S. Which are the most rigged hands to avoid in hold'em? KJ off is the one that Tony C was lol'ing at the russian in the video. -- but he's probably acutally be right about it, right?

Wow, are you serious?

this is now lolcat thread


rigged, gg, game over

I never thought of it this way. So now preplanned hands are rigged. I like it.

This is the same guy who claimed to have been fired for throwing a monitor at somebody and claimed to have a 90k roll online.

So, my conclusion:

ban

...greg? that you?

i hate this threads they are so ****ing pointless

ban

OP, are you going away?

We can only hope...

If online poker has been complained about to government officials it wouldn't surprise me in the least. Whether it's rigged or not (and those who aren't getting screwed wouldn't know about it or admit it), the sites could have been far more proactive in attempting to prevent the criticism.

One way they could do this is by offering and encouraging the use of software to analyze databanks of hand histories. This would go a long way in proving that statistical anomalies in the deal were very far and in-between. But groups of poker players could also act as consumer watchdogs to compile databases and share hand history information in the search for statistical anomalies. Why neither seems to have happened is anybody's guess.

Another way would be to hire large reputable accounting firms, or perhaps college statistics departments, to do an independent analysis of the deals and then do a blind comparison of the results with another organization doing the same thing. As profitable as the online poker business is... they should be able to afford detailed analysis to prove their legitimacy and protect their reputations.

For simple old reasons of greed, and considering the ease with which the sites could manipulate the deal (say in a particular hand with two players who meet criteria A, B, X, Y, & Z), I don't see how or why anyone would completely dismiss the possibility of the sites cheating for their own short-sighted (if not long-term) profit. Big businesses sometimes engage in questionable practices that may or may not end up catching up with them. What strikes me as odd is that many of the players who would doubt the likelihood of rigging probably would still not play other gambling games of chance based upon supposedly random number generators.

I think government regulation of the industry would probably be heavy handed and clumsy (and probably headed by a former lobbyist from within the industry), but the sites are potentially bringing harsh regulation upon themselves by not being more proactively transparent in their general practices of day to day business dealings. And the players have been lax as well by not being more skeptical and analytical. A consumer watchdog group in this industry is desperately needed.

That said... I enjoy the convenience of online poker and hope that certain steps are taken to make the industry more accountable. I think a brand new site that started up with this focus would be highly successful.

lock this thread up befroe he makes more ppl dumber for hving read this.

I'm new to posting here so I'm not sure if I already posted this reply somewhere else in the thread... sorry if I did.
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If online poker has been complained about to government officials it wouldn't surprise me in the least. Whether it's rigged or not (and those who aren't getting screwed wouldn't know about it or admit it), the sites could have been far more proactive in attempting to prevent the criticism.

One way they could do this is by offering and encouraging the use of software to analyze databanks of hand histories. This would go a long way in proving that statistical anomalies in the deal were very far and in-between. But groups of poker players could also act as consumer watchdogs to compile databases and share hand history information in the search for statistical anomalies. Why neither seems to have happened is anybody's guess.

Another way would be to hire large reputable accounting firms, or perhaps college statistics departments, to do an independent analysis of the deals and then do a blind comparison of the results with another organization doing the same thing. As profitable as the online poker business is... they should be able to afford detailed analysis to prove their legitimacy and protect their reputations.

For simple old reasons of greed, and considering the ease with which the sites could manipulate the deal (say in a particular hand with two players who meet criteria A, B, X, Y, & Z), I don't see how or why anyone would completely dismiss the possibility of the sites cheating for their own short-sighted (if not long-term) profit. Big businesses sometimes engage in questionable practices that may or may not end up catching up with them. What strikes me as odd is that many of the players who would doubt the likelihood of rigging probably would still not play other gambling games of chance based upon supposedly random number generators.

I think government regulation of the industry would probably be heavy handed and clumsy (and probably headed by a former lobbyist from within the industry), but the sites are potentially bringing harsh regulation upon themselves by not being more proactively transparent in their general practices of day to day business dealings. And the players have been lax as well by not being more skeptical and analytical. A consumer watchdog group in this industry is desperately needed.

That said... I enjoy the convenience of online poker and hope that certain steps are taken to make the industry more accountable. I think a brand new site that started up with this focus would be highly successful.

One way they could do this is by offering and encouraging the use of software to analyze databanks of hand histories. This would go a long way in proving that statistical anomalies in the deal were very far and in-between. But groups of poker players could also act as consumer watchdogs to compile databases and share hand history information in the search for statistical anomalies. Why neither seems to have happened is anybody's guess.

Simple-sites are set up differnetly- some like tilt and stars make money by having a bunch of nits multiabling passing rake around while others dont like software because they dont want their sites to be overrun with nits shredding the fish faster.


Additionally I have never heard anyone from the us govt say they had a problem with online poker because they dont trust that the deal is random. that is a non issue.
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05-12-2008 , 01:28 AM
wat
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05-12-2008 , 01:32 AM
brads got a lot of good karma, and i hope it comes back to him sooner then later.
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05-12-2008 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by homeboy604
brads got a lot of good karma, and i hope it comes back to him sooner then later.
thenks
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05-12-2008 , 01:41 AM
Good interview. The story of how he met Guy Laliberte was pretty funny plus his honesty was pretty refreshing, most live pros would never admit that they are busto or in a huge swoon publically like that considering how ego driven everyone is in that arena of the game.
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05-12-2008 , 02:05 AM
He's a bang up guy and I wish him all the best.

I also admire his culinary skills. I'm totally going to pick up some shakenbake and creamed corn next time I go for groceries.
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05-12-2008 , 06:02 AM
brad is fantastic for Canadian poker
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05-12-2008 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by warrantofice
jesus who are you?
i mean not to be mean but i'm not wishing the pope a happy birthday and if i did do you think it would really matteR?
No, it wouldn't matter because you are an angry midget troll.
Long live Brad Booth.
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05-12-2008 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BT2
yeah, i have no respect for anyone just because they run good in a few live donkaments. beating online cash is the only way to earn my respect as a good poker player.

Im sure the people who have destroyed live cash games for 20 years really care about how to gain your respect.
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05-12-2008 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by shipit2herbert
Im sure the people who have destroyed live cash games for 20 years really care about how to gain your respect.
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05-12-2008 , 11:42 AM
My own perspective...

- Brad Booth has been playing poker for a loooong time. He has been a winning player for the better part of that time. I don't know why anyone wouldn't respect what Brad has done in the game of poker

- As a person, I have only met Brad on a couple of occasions. Most recently was yesterday out at the RiverRock Casino in BC, Canada (his hometown). He was hosting the week long tourney with Gavin Smith. I was there with my mom for a team-based Mother's day event. He has playing with his sister in the event. In between his rounds and after busting out, I think he made a point to go around and introduce himself to everybody playing. Doesn't mean he is a good person...but it doesn't hurt

- Lastly, the topic of this post was about admiring someones honesty and vulnerability. To me, that's what this forum is all about. People present their hands that they have played in a vulnerable state and the public honestly and genuinely try to help them. There are very few poker players who I have met that would go on a radio show and openly discuss an incredible downswing. He made no excuses for any of it and he was open and honest throughout. That is the reality of poker for everyone. I hardly doubt there is anyone posting on this forum who hasn't experienced something like that and I really appreciate Brad coming on the radio and being vulnerable about his own experiences.

I don't really care if there are certain people who choose to dislike him...I don't even know the guy but from my perspective, I have a great respect for Brad.

Best of luck, Brad. Get back to your winning ways
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05-12-2008 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by defineluck
brad is fantastic for Canadian poker
this.
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05-12-2008 , 02:23 PM
I guess I'll weigh in.

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Originally Posted by The4thFilm
Live donkament player sucks at online cash. Groundbreaking imo.
Fail.

I met Brad in 2006 at the WSOP when I was working for Cardplayer and he would hang in our "war room," and I've gotten to know him pretty well since. Basically, take Bill Edler, make him taller, Canadian, and a little goofier, and you'll get Brad. About a week after I met him, Huff and I were playing the 1-3 game at the Wynn and Scott busted and said he was going home. 20 minutes later he comes back with another two buy-ins - "Brad Booth staked me in roulette." He's just a supremely genuine and generous guy.

Brad is also #2 on the list of poker pros that people aren't aware they're hilarious. (Ivey is #1). The same night at the Wynn, Brad was in a hand (NLHE) in which I think there was a player all-in, but Brad and randomguy still had chips. On the flop, Brad was first to act and asked if he could show his cards. The ruling was that he couldn't (which I'm not sure if that's right or not). So, Brad takes out his cell phone, takes a picture of his cards, moves in, and slides the phone over to the guy. The guy looks at the phone and instafolds. Turn and river didn't help the all-in player, so Brad took the pot.

As he is pulling the pot, he leans over to me and Scott and says "That picture is so old."
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05-12-2008 , 03:10 PM
Humility is a requisite skill for poker success.

I've enjoyed my matches with Brad, and from all accounts he seems like an awesome guy. He really really blows at game selection though. If I were to make a guess, I would think he doesn't quite understand how much even the best online players value good game selection.

My best to Brad and I too am impressed that he is humble enough to admit all of this.

Brad, if you read this, I'm probably a breakeven live full ring player =).
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05-12-2008 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by shronk

As he is pulling the pot, he leans over to me and Scott and says "That picture is so old."
I lol'd
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05-12-2008 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by shronk
Brad is also #2 on the list of poker pros that people aren't aware they're hilarious. (Ivey is #1). The same night at the Wynn, Brad was in a hand (NLHE) in which I think there was a player all-in, but Brad and randomguy still had chips. On the flop, Brad was first to act and asked if he could show his cards. The ruling was that he couldn't (which I'm not sure if that's right or not). So, Brad takes out his cell phone, takes a picture of his cards, moves in, and slides the phone over to the guy. The guy looks at the phone and instafolds. Turn and river didn't help the all-in player, so Brad took the pot.

As he is pulling the pot, he leans over to me and Scott and says "That picture is so old."
lol, great story.
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05-12-2008 , 05:46 PM
No matter what, if that cell phone story is true, Brad Booth has got to be a super neat person to be around.

See him in LV hopefully!
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05-12-2008 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by shronk
I guess I'll weigh in.



Fail.

I met Brad in 2006 at the WSOP when I was working for Cardplayer and he would hang in our "war room," and I've gotten to know him pretty well since.

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,, The same night at the Wynn, Brad was in a hand (NLHE) in which I think there was a player all-in, but Brad and randomguy still had chips. On the flop, Brad was first to act and asked if he could show his cards. The ruling was that he couldn't (which I'm not sure if that's right or not). So, Brad takes out his cell phone, takes a picture of his cards, moves in, and slides the phone over to the guy. The guy looks at the phone and instafolds. Turn and river didn't help the all-in player, so Brad took the pot.

As he is pulling the pot, he leans over to me and Scott and says "That picture is so old."
Blatant cheating. He asked for a ruling, then violated it. I know out and out cheating when I see it.

So, what did CardPlayer do, with this knowledge you has first hand ?

Seriously, unless you are flat out lying, the guy who was all-in should be filing a complaint with the Gaming Control Board and get Mr. Booth barred from Nevada as a poker cheat. I'll take your word for what you've exposed.

However, if, instead, you are lying, this would be a good time to admit it.
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