I wonder if the OP's grand kids are gonna wanna chase down this POS trash woman for the rest of this money when the OP is dead and gone? No way he ever lives to see all his money returned.

Cheers!!!

Guess you never had the joy of watching three nut straights each cost you 10% of your stack as you chopped the pot.(I bought for $100 and was the largest stack).

She's playing 1/2 at the orleans now, jeeeeez? Was she dumping at that nit house? I'm not referring to her sitting for a deuce

From the big game at Resorts world to 1/2 at the Orleans. Wow.

Bump. I need to know what's happened since

why

OP is getting paid so no long concerned with potential impacts to the community

The end

She will miss a payment in 8 months and OP will be back pretending to give a ****

Nah, my bet is she hasn't paid a dime lately.

He brought it to everyones attention what more is he meant to do that will help the community now?

lol @ thinking she will make it 8 months, she's much more likely to make 0 payments during that time than to only miss one

I have complete confidence she’ll pay!

I've pretty much left this behind now, I've got better things to be bothered with in life, and almost never think about it except to think, "oh yeah I guess one day I'll have to update that thread."

After the initial payments sputtered out (about 30% of the outstanding amount got paid over the course of about a year), nothing happened for a while. Then some guy who was apparently backing her during the WSOP started calling me and claimed he was going to get payments made. Nothing ever happened and I guess it was just a bunch of stalling and bullshit tactics.

So it's become clear that about ~$11,000 will never be collected and from everything I gather, the character (Vanessa) I was dealing with is basically a broke degenerate loser. I'm not particularly interested in wasting any of my time interacting with such people. She'll have to live with the knowledge that she's a scamming degenerate, and that the poker community she wants to be a part of knows it. She can go live with that.

She was given every opportunity for 2.5 years to fix her mess. Over an amount of money that anyone who isn't completely broke or dishonest can come up with.

So yes, the conclusion is that she isn't someone to trust or do any forms of business with.

glad you finally came to your senses

sucks that this happened

Sadly one should assume this will be the outcome 99% of the time with the majority of those never receiving any repayment on the debt. I have a hard no policy on loaning money even to those I consider trustworthy and/or friends.

There was no loan in this case. Carnivore was playing using Mamacita as the agent. The debt is winnings, rake back, etc.

Glad you finally realized what was obvious when this started.
Scumbags gonna scumbag.

What's amazing is over a relatively small amount of money she'll likely cost herself more in the long run. Anyone who is an agent for these games can print money if they're ethical with their players and don't get involved with scumbags.

Lets be honest, if this was the only time you got stiffed up on these shady app games, you ran _way_ above ev.

Not to pile on you, but she is not losing any sleep over this.
Good luck to you going forward.

I think you missed the point... Hint : she is most likely losing sleep over many issues...

sorry to hear that carnivore, hopefully one day she'll do the right thing and value herself enough to make right

Steve Badger waves from the upper deck.

Sorry to hear it man. But honestly was exactly the ending we all expected.

Cheers!!!

Why would she? This is just a super minor bump in the road for her. Hell, its prob even less, more like fly in car windscreen.

She is still a hot booty and incels&simps will still be lining up to her.

looks like you need to learn to value yourself as much as vanessa does

Because if this incident is ever significant of anything - and it usually always is... -, her road is jammed up with not only numerous bumps, but potholes, crevices and a fracking GULF big like the world!!!

You do you