It's funny how people keep mentioning Trumps advisers as if he gives he flying """". The only advisor to Trump is Trump.

Trump just spent the past year telling everyone in the world to go """" themselves and you think he cares what Adelson, Pence, or anyone else has to say now the he's in the White House? Trump wipes his ass with Adelson's $25 million over a calendar year and just said he would be president for "$1 a year."

With all that being said, I don't think Trump will do anything to bring back online poker. It's not an issue on his radar. At the same time, bringing back online poker would be consistant with his "Make American Great Again" campaign slogan. Think about how many VOTES that would get him in the next election. Think about how many players on the forum voted Hillary. I wonder what their vote would be in 2020.

Plus, the Republican Party treated Trump horribly the entire time. That will go in our favor as he has no obligations to a bunch anti-poker conservatives that just went around endorsing Hillary.

Its more on his radar than on Hillarys radar, though

Putting "" around some text indicates it is from some source.

It would be helpful to get a real sense of

who you are quoting,

when it was said/written, and

what does "this" in the supposed quote from Mr. Trump reference ?

For example, re sportsbetting;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZla4yBJHis&app=desktop

Trump on sportsbetting (1993) “everybody wants it”.

If this source you reference pre-dates legalization of online gambling in NJ, which HAS HAPPENED, than it holds little relevance to matters outside that State market because

If he personally has no skin in the game, Trump is unlikely to see any reason to push government to promote any given industry or specific ventures.

Ah, but you see...he DOES have skin in the game.

Trump is a politician now. One who just claimed he was going to "make things great again." If Trump has any intention of getting reelected (as all politicians do), the "skin" he'll be focused on from here forward will be VOTES, not dollars.

My oh my are there a lot of votes in bringing back online poker. Not just votes, but Democrat votes that he would steal and further remove any chance of a Democrat victory in 2020. It would basically be precisely what he claimed he would do. Perfect opportunity for him to capitalize on it for the next campaign.

"What did they do? They took away online poker. What did I do? I gave it back to the people. Let's continue to Make America Great Again."

Trump believes in the constitution and returning power to the states,status quo remains.NY goes legal in 2017.

Actually I have more faith in Trump getting it done than any others, trump isnt a politician he is a business man. Just like he told all his supporters he would completely get rid of obama care and once elected change his mind?


As far as donators, trump would run the white house for free with no pay, he is not in it for the money and he is rich (unlike most presidents who need the financial support). I believe if for some reason Trump wants to make it happen he will no matter what others say.

It should be the other way around in terms of what the states do.

The internet is a global network. It's too big for the states to decide on something that applies to the entire world.

What should have happened was this...

Online poker should have been taxed and regulated as soon as Black Friday hit in all 50 states. The Federal Government should've already had a tax plan in place for the sites before they ever penalized them. Ensuring that a stream of tax revenue would CONTINUE (not stop). From that point forward, states would've had the option to decide if they want regulated poker in their state, or not. At which point, the government would restrict the sites from accepting players from banned states.

This would've been the proper way to do things and it would have made the government a lot more money then just penalizing the sites on Black Friday. Somehow, they figured taking Adelson's money was more valuable then taxing a multi-billion dollar poker site.

Is it any wonder why we're $20 trillion in debt?

lol, you are naive. Trump has zero skin in the online poker industry and certainly there is little to gain politically in any event.

Faulty premise #1: What makes you think Trump will have any interest in "getting re-elected" once he has gone thru a very demanding 4 years in office ?

Faulty premise #2: There are practically no meaningful votes available for the 2020 presidential election from online poker players.

lmao

Your hindsight is pretty good at telling us your opinion on what "should have" been done. However, that is of little value going forward, even if your "should haves" were correct policy.

Politically, how do you plan to implement them going forward ?

ScreaminAsian, (great avatar btw), laughs at this, but I think Billy is right about the end result, provided the PPA successfully goes on defense against RAWA

Oh, I'm sorry. There is no hope going forward.

Your apathy over the years insured us of that.

A second term could be very financially beneficial to his brand and overall legacy depending on how he handles his business relations around the world while in office. It could also have the opposite impact.

Typically, more exposure means more steaks sold, though. Here is proof of that:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...b45_story.html

You're not looking at the right way at all. The guy has multiple brands that benefit from his presidency and votes from poker players that could help win him an election and bring more exposure to his brands could indirectly benefit him financially. He doesn't need a direct line to the poker industry to benefit from it.

I would imagine Trump is going to like being the president very very much.

Um, look around the forum at all the Democrats who play poker and believe Democrat candidates are their only hope. Their votes are definitely valuable in an election.

There are a lot of people that would love to see poker brought back. They just don't play anymore because Bovada and Americas Cardroom are horrible sites. The only group of people who are responsible for poker not being as popular as it was in the USA are the people who run Bovada/Ignition and ACR.

If those companies had done a better job at giving players what they wanted there would be a lot more people playing poker in the USA today.

Tell us what amuses you,or do you just sit back and chuckle because you know best.

I think RAWA is still dead,despite the Shelly bucks.The establishment didn't win this election,it barely participated.

Eagerly awaiting Mason Malmuth's opinion!

Too many fallacies in your post to break it down. Go back to stealth mode.

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Sheldon is a big donator to the cause of Israel. Always.
This statement is totally nonsequitur. Sheldon has been our biggest opponent throughout the years and he just so happens to be one of Trump's biggest donors. Trump has no stated position, but has shown a propensity to mold his opinions heavily according to those who have his ear. There is a very likely chance we face an outright federal ban

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Originally Posted by tarheelbluez View Post
I truly believe we will have online poker back before WSOP 2017.
delusional given above

You must be delusional at best. I agree 100% with Amurophil's responses in red. You guys really think Trump, or any new elect POTUS has any interest in legalizing online poker right after they get into office? Before WSOP 2017? Is that a joke, really? It is such a non-issue to them. Trump has way bigger things to worry about before any of this would even make it to a discussion phase.

Sure, it is a revenue stream, but taxing the Marijuana industry would be far more lucrative for them, and look how long that has taken to get where it is today. There are FAR FAR more Americans that smoke pot, then play online cards. You are living a pipe dream (pun intended) if you think anything will change for the better with online poker in the near future.

Online poker is dead in the US, deal with it. Convert to B&M poker like the rest of us. Games are much softer anyway.

He will probably keep to recent tradition and allow states to retain that power.

I am sorry, I cannot let this go. To him it is ALL about the money. He is a business man first and foremost. Usually being very wealthy means they want more wealth and power, not that they are good with where they are at now and no longer want or need the money.

Why do you think he ran in the first place? To Make America Great Again? LMAO. He ran because it gave him even more exposure. At first, he knew it was most likely a long shot, but it would build his brand even more regardless of the outcome. He ran because if by the off chance he won, he could better control the things that affect HIS business interests and his money. The rest is just normal political talk to have you believe whatever was best for him to get elected. Sure, that means he will try to accomplish things that benefit America in general, but don't lose sight of his over all life goal, to be the richest and most powerful man he can be.

Then the second part is even more ludicrous. Yeah, if Trump wants it to happen, who cares what the House or the Senate has to say? Who cares what the Supreme Court has to say? Who cares what the other checks and balances, built into our political system by the founding fathers, have to say about it. Trump will just do it anyway........

Most accurate statement ITT.

I see a lot of resemblances between trump and Isildur. My guess is that not only will he make it legal again, he'll also take on all challengers at the nosebleeds as a means of paying off the national debt.

Leave it to Trump to turn Black Friday into White Tuesday

Nice unconstitutional censorship Bobo FetT!

I am kidding of course, I understand why and it is probably a good call.

In Soviet 2+2, censorship constitutes you!

You have no idea, none at all, about just about any topic you've addressed above.

Your 6 posts are batting 0-6.

But, guess I should defer to your demonstrated deep, longstanding knowledge of the industry, the US market, the politics, the history of legislation and enforcement, the UIGEA, Black Friday, etc,

Mr." I joined last week and have 6 posts", I guess arrogance is bliss.

Itzjustbussiness
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Sorry, I want to nominate the above for some sort of prize for what might be the most stupid single comment in the history of NVG.

Itzjustbussiness is pig-ignorant of the role of the US Department of Justice in the history of online poker in the US, the UIGEA and Black Friday.