Haven't listened to the whole thing but right in the beginning he says he never worked for them, never made a dime off of them. So how is it he has these inside documents?

if theres one of these, do the same for me plz

Just go listen. Also do some research, there's info everywhere.

And, already PM'd to Go Get It

F-ing amazing stuff.

http://www.pokerroad.com/forums/open...-donkdown.html dont know if i can post this, but its someones attempt at super long cliffs basically on some other forum.

Dandruff, dude. There is a book or at least a major magazine article in this. You need to perform a bunch of interviews with this guy off the radio and get everything he knows. And get it all down in excruciating chronological detail, and publish it one way or the other.

Oh and OMFG at Russ being almost broke..

just in the first few minutes, Travis refers to all the evidence, including recordings, text messages, emails, etc. now being used in a 'federal case'... what federal case would he be referring to and why has no one talked about this before?

If Makar's being truthful here, then it sounds as though Paul Leggatt was in on the fix -- or at least part of the cover-up.

So presumably we'll see Joe Sebok giving up his post with UB any minute now, right?

I listened to this last night and thought it was great, despite the fact the two doing the interviews were awful.

Looks like Legget (sp) was in on this the lying scum bag. Anyone who still plays in UB deserves anything that happens to them, pokerwise of course.

a lawsuit

Holy crap Mark Seif's name had better come up in this interview~

duh...but surprised no one had mentioned it before

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Greg Pierson was def involved. Why els wouldn't he be able to talk about him with everything else he was saying?

if you guys get another interview with him, please stop interrupting the guy when he is trying to talk. We want to hear what he has to say and you can ask your next question when he's done.

so frustrating

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There was attribution in the first line, you just didnt notice it!

This content needs to be posted ... grow up!

I believe the 2+2 gods need to convene a meeting quickly to decide (and hopefully agree) on posting the content of this radio show in this forum, after which someone can run the show through a transcribing software and post the entire content

The rights owners requested that it be taken down. The content was fine with us. Take it up with them.

FWIW I agree with Joee

If we had a problem with the topic we would of deleted the tread. Obviously we don't..

at least put instructions in the OP for how to find it... there are going to be a ton of people who open, look at the first post, and then stop reading

They said at the end of the podcat that people should post it here :-)

Anyway i see your point and i wont derail further..

Just brainstorming here bc I know nothing about the judicial system but I would think that if he was really worried about a pending lawsuit or some sort of federal case he wouldn't want to open up about anything even touching the subject. Except he talks about everything under the sun without naming names. He can name Russ tho? Has Russ already been found guilty in the court of law? Wouldnt the cases he speaks of also include Mr. Hamilton? Refers to the cheats mostly as they or these guys. A lot of inconsistancies in his replies. Seems like he's looking for his final payday. Also, why would his lawyer have all the HHs yet he has everything else?

This was from the 16th right? Has anyone gone an taken a look at what Travis said he has?

Joee, from your link The copyright owner expressly asked for the material to be removed.
Does not seem impractical for you to have attempted to obtain permission. What did they tell you when you asked? What did your attorney say?

We'll know more on the next podcast they do as Travis said he'd give Micon a look at some of the documents when in Vegas either this weekend or next weekend.

Let's hope that this both happens and can be proven to have some substance to it.