Shouldn't UB be in violation of MOHAWK INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES policies?

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http://www.mohawk.ca/policies.php

I guess if you own the company then you can allow your sites to violate your very own policies. I've written the Kahnawake gaming commission asking for a suspension of UB's license until everything has been settled. Again, this is kind of hard to do when Joe Norton is the center of the gaming commission as well. I would encourage everyone to write the gaming commission here - http://www.kahnawake.com/gamingcommission/contact.htm - and demand that UB have its license suspended until the investigation is completed in full.

It may be seem like a pointless effort but perhaps we can see what Joe Norton is made of. Would he suspend the license of his very own company in his very own gaming commission? From a PR standpoint it would be great for him to do... suspend all activity on UB until this is over and suspend its license. It's the least you can do people... email the gaming commission demanding a suspension of UB operations. It might be a fruitless effort but we get to see just how awful the gaming commission and Joe Norton are in these inevitable times where there has been a breach in their security.

Write them and write them again. Where is their statement in this whole matter? Make these idiots take some sort of action.

Also don't hesitate to write support at MOHAWK INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES (support@mohawk.ca) and tell them that UB has violated its policies. Just take 5 minutes of your time to email at least the gaming commission, then if you are feeling frisky go for the jugular and email support@mohawk.ca and tell them UB has violated their policies and needs to cease operation.

^^^Since Norton has the monopoly, I dont see that doing any good.

Last night I decided to piss away my last $75 i had on UB. I mentioned russ hamiltons name, the scandal, and how nat got threatened. I go to login today, and it gives me the message invalid username? I emailed support and waiting. But it is rather odd

Thread doesn't have enough pics.

Russ Hamilton



Former owner of UB and may still hold an ownership position. It seems impossible to get a straight answer out of anyone affiliated with UB so we can only speculate about the current ownership. The evidence strongly suggests he was in on the cheating and specifically ties him to 3 superuser accounts: nvtease, sleeplesss and NoPaddles. These were registered to a Lauren Makar, who coincidently used to live at an address in Las Vegas that Russ now owns He obviously can't put his name on the account but this is as close as it gets.

It's still unclear exactly who Lauren is and what her role in this was, but we know the account name was changed 3 different times.

?-April 6th, 2007=nvtease
April 6th-Sept 5th 2007=nopaddles
Sept 5th-?= sleeplesss

This is a sample of the damage nopaddles did in under 8 hours of table time:
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These three accounts cashed out hundreds of thousands more than they actually won at the tables. Russ may have been laundering money through this account...we can only hope the truth comes out.

Haim Bajayo


His name was registered to the NIONIO account with email isreally@aol.com. It's possible this name is a front for his Uncle Eli Bajayo who's a known poker player and resides in Costa Rica(UB headquarters)


There is a connection between Russ and NIONIO in that both accounts had their screennames changed on Sept 5th which requires insider assistance.

The NioNio(HAIM) account was changed to nymobser.
The Nopaddles(RUSS) account was changed to sleeplesss.
The changes were made on the same day.

This is what NIONIO's sessions went like:

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Greg Pierson

Head of the company who wrote the UB software. He would certainly know how and why the superuser ability was built in.


Annie Duke


Spokesperson and sponsored UB pro who refused and still refuses to answer any important questions or concerns that the public has. She conveniently issued meaningless drivel throughout the scandal and then walked away.

People were screaming for answers and updates on P5's, she ignored everything and instead rambled about UB's tournament schedule. The first time she weighed in was May 6th, almost 5 months after the cheating broke.

Her first statement

Right now, we are in a dark castle, trying to find the light switch for each room. This community has found some already, and will continue to look for more. Along the way, somethings will surely be knocked down. I'm willing to take this risk.

I think the tone of your is not helpful, arrogant, and possibly counter-productive.

Nice summary club.

+1

nevermind

how do i post a screen shot of my login failiure on ub?

Forgive me if this has been covered.............
didnt devilfish admit he had a 1% ownership in UB ?

If so....how much does Annie and Phil have ?

Agreed. But we probably need more insider information to do this. And some insiders may be scared to contact anybody for fear of the leak getting traced back. Something that may make it easier for them to leak is to point them to a neutral 3rd party with a history of never unmasking an anonymous whistleblower, even in the face of efforts by large corporations and sovereign countries:

http://wikileaks.org/

This is a famous site where people can safely leak internal documents showing fraud and other crimes.

Some hard to find nuggets would be:

1. names of past and present equity shareholders and ownership % in all the shell companies.

2. contract paperwork showing who sold what to whom, when. Example: the agreement between whoever operates the site and handles its money and whoever licenses the software to them.

Probably easier to get but still useful would be:

3. an admin screenshot (like brainwashdodo posted) for every screenname mentioned by UB as a cheating account, complete with name/address/email.

4. a full transaction history for all these screen names, including all table buyins and cashouts, all player-to-player transfers, and all site deposits and withdrawals... with details like name/address for check withdrawals and neteller account IDs etc.

This is just dreaming until some insiders step forward. So if anybody has any contacts within UB, maybe they just need some encouragement. Explain that they have the opportunity to expose a criminal conspiracy that is dragging their company's name (and their own by association) through the mud. And at wikileaks, they have a safe venue.

-pyg

Word on the street is Fred David was involved in that cheating ring that got busted last summer at the Borgata (and had been in operation in California prior to that). You know, the one where Steve Forte was arrested. So it's no surprise his name is showing up again when shady activities are being uncovered.

link?

I thought it was not part of the original screenshot and thus likely added by brainwash too.


P.S. Somebody trustworthy with a good reputation needs to start collecting donations for a pool to pay for a private detective agency to investigate imo. If enough donations are not obtained they can be returned, but I suspect many of the people likely cheated for more than what they've been refunded so far could chip in substantially.

youmorons is right that we've reached diminishing returns as to how much can be done simply by google searches and web browsing.

P.P.S. adanthar, you are right that this thread is a mess. But instead of simply not participating, maybe you can instead arrange with the NVG admins to close it, start a new one with new cliff notes in BBV and actually MODERATE it to remove all the garbage. Or have you bean threatened too?

P.P.P.S. Also a way that reputable people can anonymously participate is needed. E.g., if, say, Nat or trambo or someone else wanted to participate without revealing it is him he could create an account "A" through an anonymous proxy, prove his real identity to, say, adanthar over AIM, adanthar would set that account's "A" title to "trusted by adanthar" or similar and thus we and the bad guys wouldn't know who specifically is behind the account, but the community would know to trust them.

I played on UB lasy night, pissed away my last $75 on the site. I mentioned the cheating scandal and how crazy it was on 2p2. I then mentioned how Russ may be involved and the 3 names tied to his address. I the mentioned Nat was threatened. I have been trying to login for the last 45 minutes. I unistalled and re-downlaoded, and my screen name still come up, mookman5, my name. I tried my password numerous times. Each time it said "Invalid player name. Try again." I emailed support. I then clicked on forgot password, went through steps, got an instant auto email with a link, an e-mail for mookman5 on file, to change password. I change my password, it opens a page saying that it has been successfully changed. I try logging in again, and it still says invalid name. I am even on thepokerdb showing played not less than 1 week ago as proof my name exists. This seems reallly shady and not a coincedence, any thoughts please?

Poast 428 in this thread

Try the Zoo, you'll get much better feedback.

FYI, full tilt does something similar.

Also for what its worth, i went to lvcmain.com, and the other same looking site. I called and left a message to the phone number at the top, as it doesnt ring, it just goes to a mailbox number. Odd for a computer business, i called a left a message both time, mentioning nothing of this thread or UB, just simply said i was interested in computer software and left my phone number. never got a call back, but now ub name is having troubles. this is weird. i am on AIm too if this may interest anyone

I think CloseUrEyes on UB is from australia and I know he used to play a lot in the 25/50 and 50/100 games on UB.

We should get money together and start hitting the people search sites like - http://www.intelius.com/ - where you can get criminal background, property ownership, domain ownership, business ownership, etc.. of all people.

Probably completely pointless but hell its actual information that may lead somewhere instead of trolling.
In CornellFijis UB post I mentioned that after installing a new AP update I was asked to verify a security certificate from diamondweb.panoratech.com.
Quick whois doesnt turn up much.
Registrant : Quaddimensions, LTD.
15F Yeouido-dongKoreaLifeInsurance63Bldg., Yeongdeungpo-gu, Seoul
(150763)

Domain Name: PANORATECH.COM
Registrar: Gabia,Inc. (GABIA.COM)

Administrative, Technical, Billing Contact:
Quaddimensions, LTD. dom@quaddimensions.com
15F Yeouido-dongKoreaLifeInsurance63Bldg., Yeongdeungpo-gu, Seoul
(Tel) 02-2077-3588 (fax) 02-2077-3599

Registrant : Quaddimensions, LTD.
15F Yeouido-dongKoreaLifeInsurance63Bldg., Yeongdeungpo-gu, Seoul
(150763)

Domain Name: QUADDIMENSIONS.COM
Registrar: Gabia,Inc. (GABIA.COM)

Administrative, Technical, Billing Contact:
Quaddimensions, LTD. dom@quaddimensions.com
15F Yeouido-dongKoreaLifeInsurance63Bldg., Yeongdeungpo-gu, Seoul
(Tel) 02-2077-3588 (fax) 02-2077-3599

Doesnt really go anywhere from what I can see. Quaddimenions in a rough babelfish translation say theyre a gaming consulting/security company.

I think this has a lot of validity...We should be asking ourselves who has been there since day 1 or has had ties from the transition of the Old--->New Management, Ownerships ETC...Who has ties with both AP-UB- KGC Tokwiro, Tom, Russ, Green, Iovation, Monsour, EWH?

Whos accounts have been closed/terminated/no longer active since the Nio-Nio scandal broke....Including ones that were previously very active in the High Stakes community. (Play, Transfer, etc) What are the Real Names behind the accounts. Also what type of process does AP/UB/Tokwiro use to actually make sure the account is valid? I understand many high stakes players have left, however im implying the ones who didn't get "major refunds" from this deal and the players who generally had "winning records" during play? Or at least if they didn't players who made major cashouts through large money transfers by suspected superusers/ people with Management Ties?

What people have ties to the software, or have been close with UB since its inception and could possibly be high up enough to know about the backdoor hole card viewing? RWH or EWH execs? iovation? Pierson, Russ, Monsour, Duke, Makar? Freddy, Phil, Tom, Green??

KGC Norton, Have ties to both. They have done a horrible job securing anything to do with UB/AP...What do they really do? If they are the Regulatory body why can't they do anything to regulate this? All it seems is that they are receiving a major paycheck from these companies to put a seal on the site saying its legit...

Who is still with AP that has ties to both companies? This is essentially the same scandal just taking place in different games, Cash and MTTS...Names of all people involved with the AP scandal and their roles? How the KGC continues to regulate them through this process when they have proven to do nothing? What has the KGC done since these scandals to ensure it won't happen again? What changes have been made and Why?

UB claims they are under new management, give us a "New Chance"? why is it that 2+2 is being forced to do their dirty work? On limited resources, I might add. Why are you so unwilling to bring about all the evidence from the scandal?..Old Shareholders are still there from the previous regime, They have no knowledge of whats going on? If they want to rebuild trust, air it all out like Morons said, How much is the final $ number that was stolen from players, Who is in upper management that has stayed on when Paul L took the reins? Whos stilil associated with both companies? How many and who are the people you have fired due to this scandal? What role did they have and what connection did they have within the company? How were they able to have access to this loophole? Who gave them the access and why?? Why was there not a checks and balances to regulate that this loophole would not be abused? Real names of players who cheated Real Names of the Old Bad management that were part of this crime The poker community will not trust them until many questions like these are answered. So this whole paragraph is directed to the people of UB people this thread or the ones who want to clear their bad name/s. Answer these questions plus shed more light on the scandal to rebuild a fraudulent reputation and until then continue to ride that sinking ship. BS responses like "It wasn't us" So and So is a "Good Guy" and whatnot aren't going to get you anywhere. We want DIRECT ANSWERS. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain as you keep losing more and more customers by the day...

Theres many more questions we should ask and feel free to come up with more. i just thought this would be a start. Some answers have come to light already but we need to start putting all the pieces together which i think slowly but surely is being done. Its not going to happen over night and people criticizing the holdups and regurgitation of info. should remember 2+2 isn't working with a full deck here so bumps in the road will happen. ( side note? Why is it when you type R.o.a.d.b.l.o.c.k.s. it gets xxx'd out?) We had an influx of info all at once by a whistle-blower that's why it looks like we aren't going anywhere. However, We must Reflect on what we have and and we need to move forward and continue to ask questions on the information that is missing...

What were you expecting, a handjob?

If the company is on the up and up, why would they tolerate someone bashing them like this on their tables? If they aren't on the up and up, ... why would they tolerate someone bashing them like this on their tables?

no bashing at all, it was all in 1 sentence, stating the news.
Did u hear about russ hamilton and what going on at 2p2? Nat threatented, crazy!, that was it, and i was either playing a $5 sng or .10/.25 6-max and losing. i doubt anyone reported my char, so what, you say they search all chat for those names? how would UB know i even said it? no players would have reported it. another playing was talking about it too.

I think with this post it is finally safe to say this thread is dead. Someone PM me if anything remotely good comes up.