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Originally Posted by stecak
Some of them do display things like that (or they say by voice to you what action you need to take).
I'm not familiar with exactly what programs you mean. But if they do that, then they are more than just a HUD and a distinction can easily be drawn between them and HUDs that display information. Again, I'm not getting into a conversation regarding whether either, both or neither should be allowed
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Originally Posted by stecak
There are. That is why pokerstars had to update their terms and condition because people used it in hypers and had exactly the same stats. HUDs also had to change to adapt to stars policy but other sites did not change policy. Also there are some private huds that stars does not know about and it is hard or impossible to detect.
I think you are wrong about any programs existing that can do
exactly what you described (at least accurately). You described a program that will tell you how often you will win the current hand if you call a bet.
Also, I'm nearly 100% sure that you are talking about programs that are more than just HUDs (even if they maybe call themselves HUD or something). HUD stands for
Heads Up Display.
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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
A head-up display or heads-up display,[1] also known as a HUD, is any transparent display that presents data without requiring users to look away from their usual viewpoints.
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Originally Posted by stecak
Anyways even normal HUD gives you information that you could not have in your memory and could not calculate on the fly, so it is not the same like playing against the same guy in a casino if they have computer aid.
Yea, that is true.
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Originally Posted by stecak
In current HUDs you can set it up to see if someone overbets the river if they usually win so it is basically the same as HUD saying to you that you should fold. No much difference.
What the HUD would do is the following calculation: (X / Y) * 100 = Z
where
X = number of times opponent "overbet" (however overbet is defined) the river and got called; and
Y = the number of times opponent won such hands
Z will then show the percentage of the time that in the past the opponent won the hand when he overbet the river and got called.
Various different calculations on different past play can be made and displayed by a HUD.
However, hands can play out very differently. The percentage that the opponent won when overbetting and getting called all times that it happened in the past is not necessarily (and in many cases for many different stats, it certainly will not be) a good representation of the chance that the opponent will win if you call this particular overbet on this particular current hand.
The HUD is not predicting the future and telling you your chances of winning if you call. It is simply calculating the percentage of times that the opponent did X in the past or the percentage of times that opponent won when he did Y in the past. Such percentage may or may not be applicable to the current hand.
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Originally Posted by stecak
However if you limit the number of tables then huds would not be that useful, and it would reduce pros(or bots)/recs ratio. More recs could move higher after a good run and then money would again trickle up like in old days when people went from 25NL to high stakes in less than a year.
HUDs would still be useful, though as you state maybe not as useful. The rest of this paragraph isn't really related.
Last edited by Lego05; 06-13-2018 at 12:16 PM.