Are you advocating her choice of UB? She may have capitalized but she certainly did NOT maximize her value.

oh rite. bc u obv know all the details of her ub deal. and obv tonyg's word is 100% that stars was giving her 1m.

dumb bitch is dumb.

actually Tony G said "millions", not 1m, and what's wrong with being generous to someone who was clearly generous to her?

I don't think we know this.

I even made sure I said it first.


meh--I hate to see anybody signing with UB, but it sounds like Tony G had his grasping fingers into the majors--she specifically says he was dealing with Stars to cut a deal for her.

Hey Tiffany, I don't care about you.

You finished 17th in the ME, not 1st. You had a once in a lifetime shot, and you blew it.

Nobody cares. Take your money and open up a hair salon.

Go away.

i dont get it. they had a staking deal. i didnt realize that in staking deals, if the stakee does above expectations they are supposed to pay back more than the agreement.

and my point obv flew rite over your head. how are we to believe tonyg actually negotiated a 1m+ deal for her? sorry, but i just dont buy it. esp since she had an agent and it seems that it was pretty easy to get in contact with her. tell me, why would stars offer more thru tonyg than thru her agent? i dont buy it.

Picture ... just because ...


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btw: UB needed TM more then she needed UB.

I don't have to know all the details - all I need to know is it is UB that she is repping. That makes her lose all credibility IMO. Ask any publicist or PR person worth their salt they will tell you that she is seriously handicapping her long term marketability by associating with a company like UB. Had she chosen any company not named UB or AP she would have a far greater upside.

As it stands right now - she has already alienated a huge portion of the core poker audience by standing by UB. She offended poker poker players who demand integrity in the game by saying "stuff happens" basically 'get over it'.

Future deals outside of room sponsorship are dependent on her marketability -the online room deal (regradless of which room) is small potatoes to more main stream opportunities that may have come her way had she not chosen to associate with a corrupt organization. It was just a bad business decision no matter how much UB offered it pales in comparison to her diminished value in the long term. Someone told her not to worry about UB and it willblow over - but - its not going to go away.

Dear Lord, Vanessa is smokin in this pic. Tiffany looks awful compared to them, while Jenn needs to get rid of the black streaks.

WORD

http://www.pokerpages.com/players/pr...lle-graham.htm

Only one previous micro-cash...
Practically PROVES that she totally fluked the 17th place ME finish...
And now all the usual vampires have commenced sucking her blood.

I'll bet Mr.Sklansky has been calling.

Clearly you don't know much about her agent. Her agent is the problem.

1. IMO she is not "gonna blow her roll, etc..." I mean she got backed into the $1K event, despite the fact that she could prolly afford to pay $1k to play. Despite what she might say, etc... she knows very well how hard it is to make money playing poker, and IMO she wont do anything stupid like blow her money on MTTs.

2. Many ppl will be interested in her. She is a media personality, and her talents go beyond poker. She is very attractive, and very good at making interviews interesting, and has a great personality. Also, she has a great network of ppl most likely. To think that she is gunna become some broke has-been is pretty stupid.

3. Both statements (tony G and Tiff) make it clear that there was a problem in the communication. Tiff was prolly overwhelemd: all eyese were on her, and she also had to stay focus on the MTT. Tony G and Co. should have contacted her in a proper manner before she got super deep, and had a conversation. Instead, they waited, and then when she did what any other young, inexperienced person would most likley do (see that the contract says its okey to get a deal w/ 3rd party, and thus persuit it) she was treaded like sheit. Mainly the Pokernews "official statement".

3. b. Infact if I was tiff, I would see if there was a case aginst Pokernews for the tort of libel. They prettymuch came out with same harsh words that may or may not been accurate, and the main cause was to damge her. I would seek an attourney.

4. many ppl prolly dont understand the complexity of the situation b/c they prolly dont do much besides post in NVG and watch tv. truth is, there is not enough info on this story, or on any of its individuals to form an accurate judgement. So I Wouldnt go as far as calling either side scum, stupid, etc... Overall it seemes like a stupid melodrama that shouldnt have happened.

im a fat idiot that lives in cleveland. obv i dont know anything about her agent.

from your post, all i can gather, is that her agent turned down more money from other sites so she would go to ub.

sorry, im still not buying it. why would her agent deliberately lead her to less money and less credibility?

Agreed.
IMO Several posts in this thread are hating on her simply because she chose to associate with UB. It was a bad decision, but she obv was approached by several sites and UB offered her the best deal.
Hating on her for signing up with UB is understandable and I'm sure she will suffer for it in the long run.
Making lame posts about how she had no right to advertise another site other than PokerNews is ******ed.
If she really did cover up all logos other than the UB ones, that's defn out of line, but someone saying they have photos of this happening, still doesn't prove that much. She might have been adjusting her jacket, it may have been cold etc - it depends on how long she covered up.
And LOL at ppl getting mad at her for the "stuff happens" remark.
What did you expect? Anyone who is representing UB/AP is defn going to avoid discussing the allegations against them. I have no doubts that she knows what's been going on, but is choosing not to comment.

*Do you mean UB? She was somewhat deep when she got the patches.
*And it's bad business to take money from a group with UB's rep
*If she knew? She works for a poker news origination. I think she knew. If she's anti-UB, she's a sellout. Pro UB, she's an idiot.
*A big star, just like Maria Who, I mean Ho.

I doubt you can sue for your boss trying to get a hold of you.

*She's is representing Tony G, Jeffery L, and PN. Maybe she should ask them if they want her to have a bunch of cheats on her hat?
*She should feel worse. Getting a couple K from UB <million dollar deal from PS.

She shouldn't worry.
Even if a few people care now there will be a time when none do.

I think it is possible that in a deal, a site might offer an incentive to an agent, IE:

they pay the agent
they give agent some perks (clients maybe?)

Though I think this is unlikely. I too think the agent wants to sign the deal w/ most money at stake b/c most likely that will mean he/she will get more money from the deal.

To speculate on this subject one would need to compare all the deals that were made. I highly doubt anyone in NVG has the info. I could see tiff opting to go w/ a lesser deal if she felt "UB was the only site that respected/treated me well, etc..."

ya bc both ends of this are confirmed, bc tonyg said so?

wow, whats with all the people that expected her to be too stupid to write a couple of coherent paragraphs?

Whats the reasoning behind you guys not thinking she wrote it?

At the very least, she is an ingrate, and now she's doing some serious backpeddling.

And all Pokernews has to produce is 1 photo showing no logos from Pokernews. Case over, she loses.

I think when she would go to pokernews.com and see the UB adds all over the site, she realized Jaff and Toney welcome cheating sites.

Also, lol at believe that Tony had a $1m master plan in the works (that apparently was not involving her agent).

lol, you would be a good judge.

fo realz