Step 1: Online sites create tablet/ipad type device which will only run the poker software and nothing else, with built in wifi and wireless charging. No wires go in, no wired go out. Build them to be tamper-proof. Once implemented Players will only be able to play on their sites by using the device.

Step 2: Players pre-order these tablets for free (big enough to be able to comfortably play with 4 games showing (maybe add the ability to swipe to another set of 4 games) (make tablet "mountable" to computer monitor stands/mounts/arms for comfort)

Step 3: Terms and Conditions: 1 device per household per site (if 2+ people live together and all play, they will have to draw straws or play a home-game tourney to see who gets to play on GG and who gets to play on ACR etc. Or have some compromise where you can all have a Pokerstars tablet/GGpoker tablet/ACR tablet but only 1 person can be logged into each site at a time - or ~insert other good ideas here.

This solves both the bot problem, and the collusion problem (at least as far as people being in the same room/house anyways, i still think either needing to use real names or having anti-collusion features like hidden names and randomized seating into cash games would be needed)

But it solves the bot problem, until people build robots that can swipe tablets that is.

Tell me what you guys think and any changes or input is welcome. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

i think its cool that you pitch an idea instead of just saying **** isnt working or w/e like some other people... however u gotta hit the drawing board again chief cuz this idea aint it haha

what's wrong with this idea?

ignition does this and they still have issues with collusion

Well who makes these devices and funds them when they are free for the players? I hope you are not saying rake pays them.

I'm surprised the industry hasn't moved towards VR headsets for a more immersive and sociable experience that mimics real poker.

Wouldn't this also solve screen-scraping and make bot detection way easier? (Tracking head movements, voice etc.)

[QUOTE=FaceplantWizzard;58406331]what's wrong with this idea?



just pretty impractical and unfeasable, devices are jail broken all the time, people already have computer set ups that they play on, not all people want to play on a tablet/play only 1-4 tables/not wanting to swipe to a new screen to play more than 4 tables, who is gonna pay for these devices, logistical nightmare... knowing your customer good, knowing your customer so you can send them a tablet... not so much lol, also not to mention its kinda bad for the planet, making a bunch of these tablets for one specific use case when everyone playing online poker already has a setup, not to mention 1 device per household and drawing straws on who gets to grind lol. its a fun idea but i think it has wayyyy too much going against it

lol...no. It most definitely isn't it.

(1) Put an end to multitabling. One table at a time per account.

(2) Beef up Know Your Customer measures to make it significantly difficult to have more than one account. Put an end to sockpuppet accounts for bots.

Yeah, regs will hate (1), but fun players will love it, because it means that the seats taken up by regs will be reduced by a significant factor. By bringing down the number of seats taken up by regs, the density of regs at each table will go down, and the games will get better. Fun players lose more slowly. The regs that stick around will be in softer tables. And because less money taken out by winning regs, the churn of account balances goes up and the site gets more rake. Everybody wins.

lool multi tabling BANNED!

this thread is getting kind of silly

I like the idea of only allowing one table at a time. Also, our user name should be our real name. Something needs to be done to fix this mess.

The solution is regulation. As long as **** is offshore or Indian casinos it's going to be rampant with cheaters, bots, collusion, and everything else.

But if you want to make it near impossible to cheat, have real names only, and playing poker require streaming with a camera, both your face and the screen you're watching.

Step 1: Stop playing Online

^^ Not everybody lives near a live poker room.

Providing proprietary poker devices in the form of a custom made tablet will just get hacked too. Same with webcams and screensharing which have already been hacked in the gaming industry years ago with software that can hide the hack overlays from the stream. The only solution to your grievances is live play.

Not everybody lives near the beach either, good luck surfing.

Lol recreational players aren't gonna mail order a ****ing iPad to play, and if they had to, it would only serve as further proof to them that online poker is somehow shady if that's what's required to make a fair game

it's also not 2006 anymore. online is always going to be filled with collusion bots and RTA. The bots and RTA are going to get much better over time. It sucks but people are delusional if they think otherwise. If you still think you can overcome all of the blatant cheating you're going to encounter online then keep playing I guess.

I second the idea of the person that said forcing people to play on camera would be the best way to reduce cheating.

I'm surprised a game where everyone plays with a live webcam hasn't caught on yet (as far as I know?). The addition of nonverbal reads, physical tells and the social aspect would make the game more fun for recs.

It wouldn't be a big hit with multitable grinders, but as far as recs are concerned that's a selling point.

Some rated online chess matches require a front and side camera or you can't be eligible for the higher end prizes of the tournament. Plus, you're using your actual USCF ID so if you cheat - adios. You're permabanned.

Yeah there's marketing potential too, at least for poker.

It could be kind of like the Dnegs vs. Doug Polk game, except you could run the stream all the time with whoever wants to play a big money game with live cameras.

People would like to watch. It would also attract whales to the highest stake games, as it would be kind of a baller thing to sit down with $100 K heads up against Doug Polk or something with everyone watching. It's more of a draw than just sitting with an anonymous screen name with no one knowing who you are.

front and side cameras is one way forward, but it's going to reduce the player pool by 95%. closer to 99% for recs.

True, it would likely only be feasible for prestigious high rollers and the like.

But just requiring people to play with their webcam on would be an improvement over the current situation. It wouldn't totally eliminate cheating, but it would at least make it more difficult to deploy bot armies to infest the games like the current situation appears to be.

I don't think ACR cares as long as the games keep running. They rake the humans and the bots alike.

It’s unnecessary. Sites like pokerstars and party have no bots. ACR and ignition could do the same if they cared and had a proper game security team

Doesn't really matter for potential cheaters. If somebody wanted to cheat, they would simply intercept traffic at router level, send it to another computer which runs RTA and just manually press the buttons it suggests.

All that would happen is the hudbots would play 10 tables over 10 sites and cause things to crawl to a halt even more than they do at the moment