I agree with all of this. I smoke occasionaly and I do not drink
My post was poorly constructed but I was not saying weed causes ****zo. I was replying directly to posts implying everyone should be sweet with weed when personal experiences will differ.

I smoked first at age 15 and I would hate my kids to start that early. Weed may be better than booze but it still has it's own evils

just lol. yeah, sure sure, 0.01% of people who smoke may have psyc issues from smoking weed. but its an incredible rarity, like a peanut allergy or some ****. its almost like its literally ****ing poison to those people. like an allergy of the brain.

of the hundreds and hundreds of people ive smoked weed with, funny how ALL these people react normally to weed. ive never met one of 0.01%.

im just saying a few instances of a chemical reaction from weed to someones (most likely) screwed up brain already, is by no means a way to determine the moral compass of smoking weed, because we already know the answer... its very good.

Don't do it. Your play will suffer, it won't make you look cool, and it's against the law!

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It's great that you have these controversial medical questions so clearly locked down, would you care to provide links to the ground-breaking peer reviewed papers you've published on the subject? I would like to be ahead of the herd when you no doubt imminently obtain the recognition in the field that this type of work clearly deserves.

I quit smoking weed and my play has improved significantly. But I was one of those guys that got baked 24/7, I suck at self control.

Also weed is great, just not for me anymore

Depends on your tolerance level.

what is this thread about, again? let's retitle it "all things in moderation"

I'm convinced

Totally agree with you, however I accidentally smoked with one of my juco football teammates who had schizophrenia. At the Time he had kept his mental illness under wraps but the kid was always a little off. We Just thought he was quirky lol. **** got pretty wild after we smoked. He kept asking me if my palms were sweating and I'm fairly certain he was hearing voices. I ended up going to bed early because of class in the morning. Find out the next day my teammates took him to the hospital because he was tripping out so hard. Then he just came out with his mental illness the next day. That was the last time we smoked with that cat!

Im in, lets blaze

That article is biased and poorly written. The paper that it's referring to is suggesting that there is a pleiotropy on the gene that codes for schizophrenia, ie when schizophrenia is expressed so is weed smoking tendencies (another cool example of a pleiotropy, if you're bored, is frizzle chickens and they are awesome). I would be curious to see what % of schizophrenics also have issues things like drug abuse outside of marijuana, addictive behavior, etc in conjunction with cannabis use. I would guess it'd be high

I honestly just glanced over the article. way too high.

Thanks for linking us to your well written and entirely objective article. Thank you also for letting us know exactly how the article in question is biased/poorly written. You have provided so much insight on the topic. Thanks again.

PS.

Based on my limited and admittedly recently learned knowledge of what pleiotropy is, the article in question does not in fact suggest anything of the like. Pleiotropy would suggest a cause and effect relationship between the genes which make you more likely to smoke weed and the genes which make you pre-disposed to schizophrenia. From what I have read, they merely state that there is a correlative relationship between the two.

If you have anything useful to contribute, feel free to do so now. Otherwise, you shouldn't just go around posting stuff that isn't true to make yourself look smart. It makes you look bad and someone lacking in intelligence or comprehension ability might take your words to be 100% true, which is no good for anyone.

In other words:
Boom. Sit down son.

ok so heres the deal.

weed is not some singular thing....there are many variables in play here.

first and foremost, weed in general will affect every single person differently. just because you smoked weed 24/7 and still managed a successful life/career doesn't mean it won't affect someone else's ambition or drive. and vice versa, just because weed made someone you know lazy and unproductive doesn't mean it will happen to everyone.

secondly, not all weed is the same and different strains will affect people differently. i feel like certain strains/types of weed are better suited for an activity like poker....you don't want to smoke something that just makes you tired and hungry. certain strains, for whatever reason, can be very mentally stimulating and help you generate creativity.

now I personally have a love/hate relationship with weed and this extends to my feelings towards weed/poker together. i've had many stretches where I quit smoking completely for like 6months+ to a year or more while playing poker....and i think there were both positives and negatives.

without weed(after 2-3 weeks of no smoking...) i started to feel like my "mental stamina" was better and my emotions were a little more stable during the grind while I was sober. i felt like I was a little more aggressive and solid overall but lacking a bit of my intuition and creativity. i felt better and sharper during long sessions or while grinding multiple tables. however when things start to go bad, I can sometimes slip into monkey tilt/gamble mode and spew away money/chips....i also notice that I can get into dick swinging contests more easily when someone shows me a big bluff or bullies me around etc. Last, I notice sometimes(when running bad obv), that I'm just not enjoying the game itself.

WITH weed, I feel like I have a better understanding of many subtle aspects of the game, things like game-flow, tilt, reads and intuition....i feel like I am leveling correctly more often and playing less robotic. however, I also notice that I can become very passive/reactive and occasionally I over-think situations...i also get mentally fatigued and tired more easily and can lose focus and sort of resort to playing a more passive B or C game instead of my A game. I also cannot grind as many tables effectively without my game suffering. A major positive is that I just do not seem to get tilted or upset by poker....the swings seem to make sense and don't trigger a negative reaction. I seem to ENJOY the game more and appreciate its complexity and even the element of luck.


so lately I have chosen to smoke....and it seems to have really helped me(both mentally and monetarily) out of an extended downswing. i think theres 2 major reasons for this....first, I was playing a more conservative, lower variance style and second, I was focusing more on the big picture and not letting immediate results influence my thinking/feelings.

Wow man, that was abrasive, just posting that I thought the correlation is much more complex than x=y, more like the pot smoking can be the result of a bunch of other variables

Pleiotropy isn't necessarily cause and effect, cause and effect would be artificial selection. Like the frizzle chickens example i put above, they look adorable because their feathers are always erect. The gene that codes for the allele expressing Piloerection here also codes for the alleles that make the chicken slow and bad at reproducing. The pleiotropy is the constant Piloerection, slowness, and poor reproductive rates.
In this context the article posted the relatedness of schizophrenia to pot smoke usage, with the gene coding for those two traits.