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12-10-2013 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KidFernandes
They don't just out of the blue close customers accounts with no warning.
oh ok, sorry for citing a personal experience I had with them.
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12-10-2013 , 11:07 PM
good move by skrill
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12-10-2013 , 11:11 PM
Got another question. I see stars doesnt allow checks in usd and only canadian. So i just used an example of cashing out 1k as an example and it shows


1000 USD = 1060.50 CAD.


The exchange rate that BMO does today is we will buy from you 1.0365 and sell to you at 1.0895.


So if i deposit 1060.50 CAD check into my bmo checking account. How much would it be when converted to usd using the rates that bmo does it.
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12-10-2013 , 11:13 PM
Well to those that saw Titan Poker leaving Canada as adding to the sky is falling scenario; Titan has just announced an about-face and has started accepting Canadian players again.

I just think that some poker sites and Skrill are being huge nits for not wanting to do business in countries that don't have poker regulation. Not being regulated wrt poker is a far cry from having regulations explicitly barring foreign operators. It's not like Canada will pass regulations then retroactively go after Skrill.
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12-10-2013 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chinamaniac
good move by skrill
Why?
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12-10-2013 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Drewphish2
Got another question. I see stars doesnt allow checks in usd and only canadian. So i just used an example of cashing out 1k as an example and it shows


1000 USD = 1060.50 CAD.


The exchange rate that BMO does today is we will buy from you 1.0365 and sell to you at 1.0895.


So if i deposit 1060.50 CAD check into my bmo checking account. How much would it be when converted to usd using the rates that bmo does it.

$1060.50/1.0895 = $973.38

Note, banks can give better rates for larger transactions (different ones tier it differently), and some will give a better rate doing it through online banking instead of selling or buying cash. If you are doing $100,000+ you should speak to them about getting a much better rate as well (they will have to call it in).
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12-10-2013 , 11:34 PM
am i still allowed to withdraw my money from poker sites to skrill after Jan 2 from canada?
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12-11-2013 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by King Of The Donks
Writing is one the wall. GG Canada.
Actually, it's not just on the wall, it's right here in this thread - we're losing Skrill.

Or were you using this to make some fantastic leap to a much bigger conclusion?

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Originally Posted by chinamaniac
good move by skrill
Why?

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Originally Posted by Drewphish2
Has anyone here withdraw by check via pokerstars and in canada and could do it in usd?

Another question that might sound silly but if they do and i have a usd check, i can deposit it into my BMO usd acct and not have to pay currency fees? Or would that usd check have to be converted to cad? I have a USD and CAD Bank of Montreal acct and of course i want to have it in USD so i can transfer that amt to my bank of america.
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Originally Posted by Drewphish2
Got another question. I see stars doesnt allow checks in usd and only canadian. So i just used an example of cashing out 1k as an example and it shows


1000 USD = 1060.50 CAD.


The exchange rate that BMO does today is we will buy from you 1.0365 and sell to you at 1.0895.


So if i deposit 1060.50 CAD check into my bmo checking account. How much would it be when converted to usd using the rates that bmo does it.
Ugh. Please don't turn this into another one of these threads where you just ask every single question that pops into your mind rather than doing a little research and using some common sense, and then just asking the couple of questions that aren't so obvious.

USD accounts exist so that you can deposit USD into them without paying currency vig, and they sell USD to you at the...sell rate!

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Originally Posted by Mylife0115
am i still allowed to withdraw my money from poker sites to skrill after Jan 2 from canada?
Going from the OP, I'd say you have until January 31st:

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Payments to gambling merchants will no longer be processed from 2 January, with payments from merchants ceasing on 31 January.
Although I'd recommend against waiting to the last minute, because you might find the cashout request doesn't arrive at Skrill until after the cutoff date and then they deny you.
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12-11-2013 , 12:06 AM
When Canadians lost Neteller in early 2007, it was pretty much business as usual. I remember opening a Moneybookers and a click2pay account at the time. There's other payment processors as well.
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12-11-2013 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by OWLS
If I live in Canada and have my accnt set up as such, but am also a a eu citizen who has property there as well am I able to circumvent this by changing my address? Or as long as your ip is Canadian you won't be able to do anything gambling related without a vpn?
Yes. I received a notice from my Skrill contact regarding this as well and it is real. For your question,

I'm currently located in a country where Skrill transactions to Gambling merchants is not allowed. But same as you, I have citizenship in another country where it is allowed. Just get your account verified using that other country. (Proof of address, Bank + Card and ID) And add a secondary bank account in canada for withdrawal probably will work. (Not sure if they will still serve non-gambling canadian accounts)

Right now when I deposit i just open PS, Select deposit X amount. Click submit. Skril window pops up. I close PS, Log into VPN .Deposit on the skrill site that popped up. Close VPN. Open stars. and wala cash is there. And i can cash out to my current country where gambling isnt allowed
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12-11-2013 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by crush_yo_grandma
Right now when I deposit i just open PS, Select deposit X amount. Click submit. Skril window pops up. I close PS, Log into VPN .Deposit on the skrill site that popped up. Close VPN. Open stars. and wala cash is there. And i can cash out to my current country where gambling isnt allowed
poty
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12-11-2013 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by crush_yo_grandma
Yes. I received a notice from my Skrill contact regarding this as well and it is real. For your question,

I'm currently located in a country where Skrill transactions to Gambling merchants is not allowed. But same as you, I have citizenship in another country where it is allowed. Just get your account verified using that other country. (Proof of address, Bank + Card and ID) And add a secondary bank account in canada for withdrawal probably will work. (Not sure if they will still serve non-gambling canadian accounts)

Right now when I deposit i just open PS, Select deposit X amount. Click submit. Skril window pops up. I close PS, Log into VPN .Deposit on the skrill site that popped up. Close VPN. Open stars. and wala cash is there. And i can cash out to my current country where gambling isnt allowed
Why can't Skrill detect your IP from this access point?
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12-11-2013 , 12:17 AM
I've got my own theory on what's happening here, and this is with zero inside knowledge - just trying to reach some logical conclusions.

Skrill's probably never been all that comfortable here in Canada. Neteller pulled out shortly after the UIGEA; Skrill's likely been contemplating it for at least that long. Now they finally have their foot back in the door in NJ; the last thing they want to do is jeopardize that. The long game could see them coming back to many US states, which could definitely surpass their Canadian revenues. There's nothing in Canadian law that makes online poker illegal, but there's also nothing that explicitly makes it legal, either. It's definitely something of a grey area, and there's always the possibility that if Ontario gets their act together one day and finally starts offering online poker like most other provinces, that they start taking a serious look at trying to push other sites out. I don't know if that's likely or that it would succeed, but it's definitely a non-zero possibility. And then there's also the possibility that some state regulates but looks at Skrill as being rogue for taking offshore gaming transactions in Canada.

Given the somewhat grey area that online poker is in here, and the possibility (small or large) that one day they could get pushed out anyway, I think Skrill's made a strategic decision to go completely "legit" in North America - a market that's only going to grow.
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12-11-2013 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I've got my own theory on what's happening here, and this is with zero inside knowledge - just trying to reach some logical conclusions.

Skrill's probably never been all that comfortable here in Canada. Neteller pulled out shortly after the UIGEA; Skrill's likely been contemplating it for at least that long. Now they finally have their foot back in the door in NJ; the last thing they want to do is jeopardize that. The long game could see them coming back to many US states, which could definitely surpass their Canadian revenues. There's nothing in Canadian law that makes online poker illegal, but there's also nothing that explicitly makes it legal, either. It's definitely something of a grey area, and there's always the possibility that if Ontario gets their act together one day and finally starts offering online poker like most other provinces, that they start taking a serious look at trying to push other sites out. I don't know if that's likely or that it would succeed, but it's definitely a non-zero possibility. And then there's also the possibility that some state regulates but looks at Skrill as being rogue for taking offshore gaming transactions in Canada.

Given the somewhat grey area that online poker is in here, and the possibility (small or large) that one day they could get pushed out anyway, I think Skrill's made a strategic decision to go completely "legit" in North America - a market that's only going to grow.
that sounds a lot like a post i read earlier itt

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Originally Posted by TheGift&TheCurse
CVC capital paid 600 million euros for 70% of Skrill not long ago

they spent that $ for a reason

obviously they're looking to establish themselves as the go to e-wallet for regulated markets (as it has begun in US)

Canada has become what the the old US grey market was (still kinda is)

this sucks for US player (VPNing from Canada) in the short term but good in the long term

this sucks for Canada players just like Black Friday sucked for US players except its about 0.000000000000001% as bad

/thread
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12-11-2013 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by crush_yo_grandma
Yes. I received a notice from my Skrill contact regarding this as well and it is real. For your question,

I'm currently located in a country where Skrill transactions to Gambling merchants is not allowed. But same as you, I have citizenship in another country where it is allowed. Just get your account verified using that other country. (Proof of address, Bank + Card and ID) And add a secondary bank account in canada for withdrawal probably will work. (Not sure if they will still serve non-gambling canadian accounts)

Right now when I deposit i just open PS, Select deposit X amount. Click submit. Skril window pops up. I close PS, Log into VPN .Deposit on the skrill site that popped up. Close VPN. Open stars. and wala cash is there. And i can cash out to my current country where gambling isnt allowed
So skrill has no problem with you using a vpn like star does? What would happen if you would not use a vpn, or had a time when you forgot to use it, would they restrict/ban your account or something along those lines, or would the transaction just not go through and nothing would happen?
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12-11-2013 , 01:15 AM
skrill BLOWS. I've had $200 stuck on there for over two years for no reason. They wont even respond to my emails.
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12-11-2013 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by chinamaniac
good move by skrill
why?
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12-11-2013 , 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by hurt
why?
he's a well known troll fyi
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12-11-2013 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I've got my own theory on what's happening here, and this is with zero inside knowledge - just trying to reach some logical conclusions.

Skrill's probably never been all that comfortable here in Canada. Neteller pulled out shortly after the UIGEA; Skrill's likely been contemplating it for at least that long. Now they finally have their foot back in the door in NJ; the last thing they want to do is jeopardize that. The long game could see them coming back to many US states, which could definitely surpass their Canadian revenues. There's nothing in Canadian law that makes online poker illegal, but there's also nothing that explicitly makes it legal, either. It's definitely something of a grey area, and there's always the possibility that if Ontario gets their act together one day and finally starts offering online poker like most other provinces, that they start taking a serious look at trying to push other sites out. I don't know if that's likely or that it would succeed, but it's definitely a non-zero possibility. And then there's also the possibility that some state regulates but looks at Skrill as being rogue for taking offshore gaming transactions in Canada.

Given the somewhat grey area that online poker is in here, and the possibility (small or large) that one day they could get pushed out anyway, I think Skrill's made a strategic decision to go completely "legit" in North America - a market that's only going to grow.
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12-11-2013 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by fees
Is it realistic for pokerstars to start accepting bitcoin?

Yes, they'd just have to use a service that can instantly convert the BTC's used to fund their poker accts into Dollars/Euros or whatever they want them to be.

There is a service called bitpay which already does this. It separates stars or any other business from the volatility issue entirely.

However IDK if there could be laws preventing bitpay from working with stars but I don't see why that would be the case?

Last edited by inspectorgadget; 12-11-2013 at 03:28 AM.
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12-11-2013 , 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Drewphish2
Is he currently in canada? How much was the check for and what was the carrier? If this is true, then i might just transfer my balance from stars to tilt to do this.
Yeah, I wouldn't do this if I were you. Just a few weeks ago I transferred my Stars roll to Full Tilt with the intention of withdrawing from there (since I had initially deposited on FT and in order to withdraw you have to have first made a deposit using the same e-wallet). I grinded on Tilt for a few days and requested a cashout only to receive an email that said something along the lines of "Our services are not provided solely to facilitate the movement of online funds, and we do not permit players to use our site for this purpose." It then went on to say that I had to show an "intent to play on their site" in order to withdraw. Ok, I'll grind for a few more days then cashout. Two days later I try again and my account gets locked. I had to email support and agree to not withdraw my Stars funds from their site in order to get my account unlocked. I didn't really get what the big deal was considering I had initially deposited a lot of money on Tilt and they're both owned by the same parent company, but whatever, rules are rules.
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12-11-2013 , 06:25 AM
To be honest as an Australian player skrill is a massive pain in the ass anyway. I have had an account for the better part of 10 years and recently while making a transaction was asked to re-verify my account.

Pain in the ass but fair enough can't fault them for being vigilant right?

After sending multiple copies of my license, reciving verification mail at my address, approximately 5 phone s calls, 10 emails, copies of phone electricity water car registration sent I'm still restricted from performing any transactions and have a sizable amount of $$ essentially in limbo .

Only reason given is that all of my bills are downloaded from my suppliers website or via emails and not hard copies. Im not sure what century these idiots live in but i rarely get a hard copy of anything anymore.

In summary **** skrill i hope.this costs them a fortune and they burn.
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12-11-2013 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by MrSawyer
Yeah, I wouldn't do this if I were you. Just a few weeks ago I transferred my Stars roll to Full Tilt with the intention of withdrawing from there (since I had initially deposited on FT and in order to withdraw you have to have first made a deposit using the same e-wallet). I grinded on Tilt for a few days and requested a cashout only to receive an email that said something along the lines of "Our services are not provided solely to facilitate the movement of online funds, and we do not permit players to use our site for this purpose." It then went on to say that I had to show an "intent to play on their site" in order to withdraw. Ok, I'll grind for a few more days then cashout. Two days later I try again and my account gets locked. I had to email support and agree to not withdraw my Stars funds from their site in order to get my account unlocked. I didn't really get what the big deal was considering I had initially deposited a lot of money on Tilt and they're both owned by the same parent company, but whatever, rules are rules.

Is the reason why you did these check cashout in full tilt because its in USD? Im confused but why dont you use skrill at the moment?


How much did you transfer appromxiated and what play did you did on full tilt? I mean did you just transfer 5k for example and then payed maybe 50 dollars in rake and then cashed out? Curious to know what their policy is regarding like for every $100 you transfer from stars to tilt, how much rake you have to pay. I think stars transfers when receiving you need to get 15 fpp or so for every 100 or 1000.
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12-11-2013 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
canada licking america's balls under the pressure

its neteller all over again

zzzz
they always do
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12-11-2013 , 01:39 PM
they have next to no customer support. it has been so for ten years.
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