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Shaun Deeb 100k to 1M 17% body fat bet with Bill Perkins Shaun Deeb 100k to 1M 17% body fat bet with Bill Perkins

06-05-2023 , 02:45 PM
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06-05-2023 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjet
still looks like a whale from recent pics I have seen., Is he even trying? should have signs of progress by now.
Not necessarily. Ive heard some people explain it as similar to a paper towel roll. Basically, the fatter you are, the longer it takes to see progress. Similar to a new roll of paper towels, you won’t notice a sheet or two missing but as you get down to the tube (your ideal weight), each sheet removed becomes more apparent.
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06-05-2023 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
He had a fruit juice instead of coke while on the table yesterday, dude is gonna smash this bet!
This is actually pretty terrible for him given his goal and his current form(a fat guy), even though fruits are the "cleanest" part of the plant(low in antinutrients). It is pretty likely he has developed a fatty liver from all the crap he's been eating so the last thing he needs is a load of fructose.

He needs to fire the geniuses giving him diet advice if he wants to at least have a shot. They are probably in the "calories in, calories out" cult, too. smh
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06-05-2023 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by philhell24
This is actually pretty terrible for him given his goal and his current form(a fat guy), even though fruits are the "cleanest" part of the plant(low in antinutrients). It is pretty likely he has developed a fatty liver from all the crap he's been eating so the last thing he needs is a load of fructose.

He needs to fire the geniuses giving him diet advice if he wants to at least have a shot. They are probably in the "calories in, calories out" cult, too. smh
its beautiful everything you wrote about nutrition here is total BS but you write with such confidence, even condescending tone.
Eating a whole foods plant based diet is the best thing deeb or any human being could possibly do for their health, the keto/carnivore cult has done so much damage to people's health this past decade
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06-05-2023 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by leanPocketPair
its beautiful everything you wrote about nutrition here is total BS but you write with such confidence, even condescending tone.
Eating a whole foods plant based diet is the best thing deeb or any human being could possibly do for their health, the keto/carnivore cult has done so much damage to people's health this past decade
Has it ever occurred to anyone on either extreme of the spectrum that perhaps what works best for one person isn’t best for another?
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06-05-2023 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh
Has it ever occurred to anyone on either extreme of the spectrum that perhaps what works best for one person isn’t best for another?
Only a NVG poster deals in absolutes.
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06-05-2023 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by leanPocketPair
its beautiful everything you wrote about nutrition here is total BS but you write with such confidence, even condescending tone.
Eating a whole foods plant based diet is the best thing deeb or any human being could possibly do for their health, the keto/carnivore cult has done so much damage to people's health this past decade
There’s a difference between eating/drinking for health and trying to shed as much weight as possible trying to win a million dollars. His hired guns might not be completely cognizant of that or maybe just too set in their ways.

All he needs is water and that’s all he should be drinking, unless it’s coffee (no sugar of course). Oh definitely should add green tea
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06-05-2023 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by philhell24
This is actually pretty terrible for him given his goal and his current form(a fat guy), even though fruits are the "cleanest" part of the plant(low in antinutrients). It is pretty likely he has developed a fatty liver from all the crap he's been eating so the last thing he needs is a load of fructose.

He needs to fire the geniuses giving him diet advice if he wants to at least have a shot. They are probably in the "calories in, calories out" cult, too. smh
Sorry but that is not a cult. Calories in less calories out equal accumulation is simply a scientific fact.

Are there things one can do to alter bodies uptake of consumed calories, yep, certainly. But any calories which are not taken up, go out. Are there things one can do to alter the bodies use of calories, again yep.

But the underlying calories in, calories out is a simple scientific law. One simply needs to correctly identify and understand the mass/energy balance envelope at hand.
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06-05-2023 , 06:58 PM
It's absolutely hilarious how a post about fruit juice that was most likely a joke, managed to work up so many people in very little time.
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06-05-2023 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
It's absolutely hilarious how a post about fruit juice that was most likely a joke, managed to work up so many people in very little time.
There's nothing worse than fitness/nutrition guy.
I remember when intermittent fasting was more of a "Thing", and was talked about at poker constantly. Worse than crypto talk
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06-06-2023 , 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Fore

Are there things one can do to alter bodies uptake of consumed calories, yep, certainly. But any calories which are not taken up, go out. Are there things one can do to alter the bodies use of calories, again yep.

But the underlying calories in, calories out is a simple scientific law. One simply needs to correctly identify and understand the mass/energy balance envelope at hand.
That I can agree with. What I was trying to say is calorie usage and the body's energy efficiency are non-linear. The body will adapt to whatever you give it and change its metabolism accordingly.

So in theory you are correct. In practice the calorie counting thing could only kind of work short-term and even then it won't be accurate because some calories won't get absorbed and also it "costs" more energy to digest certain foods, especially true with high fiber foods, for which the body needs to use extra calories to push the fiber through the digestive tract
, not to mention that anything that binds to the fiber will just go right through, both calories and nutrients.
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06-06-2023 , 06:29 AM
Drinks juice and thinks he can win this bet at 5'7 215lbs???????


Sigh. Bill is gonna get to keep his million and pick up a quick 100k for charity.
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06-06-2023 , 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by loco


Sigh. Bill is gonna get to keep his million and pick up a quick 100k for charity.
This, unless Shaun introduces trenbologna sandwich into his diet. Then it is game over for Perkins.
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06-06-2023 , 06:43 AM
No shiet. He should be at least on Mounjaro and Clomid.

So frustrating to not see him get this easy million. Not sure how he and Polk hire morons instead of competent transformation specialists.

5'7 215 15-17% bodyfat is basically Emmitt Smith or Mark Ingram. Does anybody think Shaun is gonna look like that in one year??? Lol.

He needs to look like a full AIDS patient to win this (maybe 150-155lbs). Or as was suggested, start eating the PED sandwiches.
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06-06-2023 , 07:41 AM
He is not even capable of drinking water, instead drinking sugar, he can't even get the basics right.
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06-06-2023 , 08:01 AM
if you are on peds but still have a shitty diet, you won't lose weight.


he needs 500mg of putting the fork down, not drugs
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06-06-2023 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Rmbxr9
I remember when intermittent fasting was more of a "Thing", and was talked about at poker constantly. Worse than crypto talk
It's established in rigorous studies to prolong healthy aging and lifespan in species all across the animal kingdom.
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06-06-2023 , 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by numberonedonk
if you are on peds but still have a shitty diet, you won't lose weight.


he needs 500mg of putting the fork down, not drugs
GLP-1 agonists like Ozempic, Wegovy, and Mounjaro regulate the physiological system that controls hunger. They quite literally help the obese put the fork down.
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06-06-2023 , 09:34 AM
he might as well drink coke as juice from a calorie perspective. he needs to start taking some heavy ****, do liposuctions and transplanting more muscles and bone to his body.
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06-06-2023 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by namisgr11
GLP-1 agonists like Ozempic, Wegovy, and Mounjaro regulate the physiological system that controls hunger. They quite literally help the obese put the fork down.
I know several people who didn't change a single thing to their fast-food-first diet and lost a crazy amount of weight anyway, simply because Mounjaro/Wegovy makes them eat only once or twice a day instead of three or four times.
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06-06-2023 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by numberonedonk
if you are on peds but still have a shitty diet, you won't lose weight.


he needs 500mg of putting the fork down, not drugs
Meh. PEDs would increase his lean body mass, which lowers his bodyfat% equally.

I'm totally in the "just put the fork (and fruit juices) down"-camp (I'm dieting myself right now), but I think PEDs would help.

Buuuut he really just needs to starve himself. It's not rocket science in the end. Kinda wild that Tedd Forrest seems to be the only poker weight loss bettor to understand this.
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06-06-2023 , 03:10 PM
Deeb should just get gastric bypass surgery
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06-06-2023 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
Meh. PEDs would increase his lean body mass, which lowers his bodyfat% equally.

I'm totally in the "just put the fork (and fruit juices) down"-camp (I'm dieting myself right now), but I think PEDs would help.
Referring to the GLP-1 directed drugs as PEDs is weird. They're approved as a treatment for type II diabetes, a life-shortening disorder. They've been shown effective and well tolerated for extreme obesity, a life-threatening metabolic disease, but aren't yet approved for the indication in the US, and instead based on the published obesity trials are being used to treat it off-label. There's no 'performance' involved, just medical practice.

It would be surprising to me if Deeb weren't using one of them.

Last edited by namisgr11; 06-06-2023 at 05:13 PM.
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06-06-2023 , 06:06 PM
Deeb should get a colon cleanse but just rip it all out
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06-06-2023 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by namisgr11
It's established in rigorous studies to prolong healthy aging and lifespan in species all across the animal kingdom.
We call that skipping a meal and it reduces caloric intake. Thats about it
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