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05-22-2020 , 05:34 PM

#26

GOOD4POKR13

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Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 1

I beleive there is collusion after watching this. How else would you explain this kind of behavior? You don't need stats when you open your eyes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fogee6J9ZUY

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05-22-2020 , 06:28 PM

#27

Dreamer

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Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 687

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Originally Posted by GOOD4POKR13

I beleive there is collusion after watching this. How else would you explain this kind of behavior? You don't need stats when you open your eyes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fogee6J9ZUY

That is incredibly shady.

It could be explained with seating scripts but even so I dont think human players would jump in and out as much.

I would think it would be super easy for someone to do a much better study of this behavior.

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05-22-2020 , 06:31 PM

#28

lolposting2016

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Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 2,149

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Originally Posted by GOOD4POKR13

I beleive there is collusion after watching this. How else would you explain this kind of behavior? You don't need stats when you open your eyes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fogee6J9ZUY

Looks to me like you’re getting bum hunted to me tbh
I’ve played with all these Russian accounts up to 25/50 and while the vast majority are 90% nits, bumhunters, grimmers, idk how much actually cheating is going on. There’s like maybe 5-10 of these Russian accounts that actually battle at high stakes but the rest are just bumhunters, I haven’t seen much suspect stuff in the high stakes lobby other than the stuff I just mentioned.

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05-22-2020 , 08:26 PM

#29

gdsfather

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 591

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Originally Posted by GOOD4POKR13

I beleive there is collusion after watching this. How else would you explain this kind of behavior? You don't need stats when you open your eyes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fogee6J9ZUY

that is 100 percent normal and has been for 10 years. you have people scripting, and many regs are just watching the lobby even while playing. it sucks but people are basically bumhunting .01/.02 now. theres also most likely collusion going on but i dont think thats it.

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05-22-2020 , 09:12 PM

#30

whitemares

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 5,786

I don't doubt that there's some kind of collusion going on at higher stakes on these shady offshore sites (ACR/BOL mainly), but it seems way more likely to me that it'd just be a bunch of scumbags in a grind house or something instead of actually being perpetrated by the Russian mafia. Those guys are involved in drug/arms/human trafficking, extortion, prostitution, money laundering, murder-for-hire, etc., all of which have to be way more lucrative than slowly bleeding a bunch of bumhunters

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05-23-2020 , 06:53 PM

#31

Picky Mosquito

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 303

Posting a video of a guy who doesn't have enough money to sit at the table halfway through probbbbbbb isn't the best example lol

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05-24-2020 , 08:04 PM

#32

JackBurton

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Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 597

Well sorry for previous post, I should have read the thread better and personally don't have any knowledge about LHE on acr. Only play up to NL200 there.

The videos people post, those are seating scripts. Basically if you are not a regular the table will fill up when an unknown sits or they will have to play HU or short handed against players that are better than you. It's really not a good look and personally I don't use them, but if I played a higher limit and couln't get to tables easily I probably would use one if it wasn't prohibited on the site.

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05-24-2020 , 08:45 PM

#33

gdsfather

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 591

Judging by the speed they joined, they most likely did not even have scripts, as those would fill almost instantly, there is enough delay in joining that they are probably just watching the lobby, or perhaps they have one set to a delay.

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05-24-2020 , 10:15 PM

#34

Toupee Jay

adept

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 772

You want to play poker online? Okay, then let the buyer beware!

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05-25-2020 , 12:30 AM

#35

cocacola2

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 108

inb4 italian mob and yakuza are in on this.

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05-25-2020 , 01:28 AM

#36

silkhandlez

grinder

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 480

VIEW: OP writes way too much about having a large online following. Seems like he is bluffing. Poor intimidation tactics. Don't get me wrong I hate wpn, and want a cheating scandal to come out in order to validate a year and a half downswing on there, but this aint it.

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05-25-2020 , 01:38 AM

#37

HomeStar

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Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,582

OP, you said you and your team have been tracking this ring for months. Post some evidence. I don't see any.

Of course there is collusion going on. There's been collusion going on since the beginning of online poker. Every time I play a jackpot SNG and the other two players are from Russian or closeby countries, I put my big boy pants of and prepare for a wild ride

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05-25-2020 , 03:16 AM

#38

The Standard Station

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 638

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Originally Posted by Picky Mosquito

Posting a video of a guy who doesn't have enough money to sit at the table halfway through probbbbbbb isn't the best example lol

Bro part of the sophistication of this operation, bc its Russian mob based is always cycling the money off the site so if they get discovered not much gets locked up. Besides theyve got a team of guys on there, its easy to get p2p and refill.