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06-21-2014 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnCleese
Its just filtered weird. It shows overall itm as 62%(still borderline impossible imo). Figures dont add up. Meh.
So...possible, perhaps that there's just a filter applied that heavily favors certain results?
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06-21-2014 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hankypankyAA
2008 wasn't the beginning of the boom though, the players were far worse circa party poker glory days of 2001-2005.
And I wish I could of played back then!
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06-21-2014 , 11:44 PM
jeez, thats a quality documentary riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite there
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06-22-2014 , 12:23 AM
from what i understand, the video is from 2008 and he is talking about games "back then", so he may as well be talking about games around 2005. Anyway, obv heater/small sample, but those results are insane.
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06-22-2014 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by sofired
Everytime I hear his name I think of this ridic. hand

http://www.poker.org/videos/andrew-r...-quads-132014/
I think of this one:

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06-22-2014 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
Is 449 games really much of a sample to draw conclusions about ROI?
Fun fact: You can see that he played 449 games, but he only shows the results of 210 games played at $50 and $100. He actually lost money in the remaining 239 games (net amount for all games is $43.661.00, net amount for $50 and $100 is $22.234.00 and $21.520.00 for a total of $43.754.00). Also note how the "Fin. in the $" drops drastically from 98,53% ($50) and 97,3% ($100) to 62,81% (overall). It just seems kind of strange that a guy who lost money in more than 50 % of the games would crush soooooo hard in the remaining games. I mean, average finish of 1,55 ($100) and 1,43 ($50) in 10-mans, you can´t make this **** up. Even a superuser might do it in a more subtle way.

Then again, the level of play in those games was absolutely atrocious. I remember watching a $100 coaching video that was produced in 2005 or 2006 and the play was about on the same level as a 25ct game these days. You could crush super hard even without cheating, but some guys just couldn´t help themselves. ZeeJustin comes to mind, and he probably wasn´t the only one. Now consider that Robl was part of the "ship it holla" crew and how just about everyone of those guys initially build their bankroll by playing SNG (Galfond included), and you have something to think about. Those stats just look unbelievable, i.e. just about as unlikely as the run-out in that infamous PLO hand vs. Antonius.
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06-22-2014 , 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by moki
I think of this one:

I do prefer this one. So much better if Robl actually loses money.

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06-22-2014 , 03:51 AM
As Amaya bought PS, and they want to legalize the poker in the US again. So If this would have happened, how do u think the game is gonna change?
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06-22-2014 , 03:52 AM
I played loads of sngs with good2cu back in the party poker days. Most likely that was a few days worth of play he somehow filtered to show only the cashes. Also, the average finish of the in the money games was 1.5. Seeing how you either take 1st, 2nd or 3rd, the average should be around 2. Of course, his was slightly better over that sample due to running insanely hot. Notice his total average was 3.2, which of course is great, but not super insane over a small sample. This seems like a fairly standard super hot old school short term run to me.
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06-22-2014 , 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by McGessa
As Amaya bought PS, and they want to legalize the poker in the US again. So If this would have happened, how do u think the game is gonna change?
if pokerstars back in US, this is you!
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06-22-2014 , 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by WhyDid I doThat :|
Tilts me how bad he played that hand
Other than taking forever every decision, what are you tilted by?
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06-22-2014 , 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by FieryJustice
I played loads of sngs with good2cu back in the party poker days. Most likely that was a few days worth of play he somehow filtered to show only the cashes. Also, the average finish of the in the money games was 1.5. Seeing how you either take 1st, 2nd or 3rd, the average should be around 2. Of course, his was slightly better over that sample due to running insanely hot. Notice his total average was 3.2, which of course is great, but not super insane over a small sample. This seems like a fairly standard super hot old school short term run to me.

How do you filter for cashes and end up with a sample that shows you lost money over 50 %+ of all games?
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06-22-2014 , 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mumpfmampf
How do you filter for cashes and end up with a sample that shows you lost money over 50 %+ of all games?
If you cash 45% of the time, you "lose" 55% of the time and will be up tons of money. I am not too sure what you are asking.
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06-22-2014 , 04:52 AM
Robl is an inspiration to bad poker players all around the world.
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06-22-2014 , 05:30 AM
imagine if we could go back in time and play on partypoker back in 03 and 04 if only for a few hours
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06-22-2014 , 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by sofired
Everytime I hear his name I think of this ridic. hand

http://www.poker.org/videos/andrew-r...-quads-132014/
Timoshenko's face IMO
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06-22-2014 , 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by the pleasure
imagine if we could go back in time and play on partypoker pacific poker back in 03 and 04 if only for a few hours
97% ITM pffff... On Pacific you could get 100% by just sitting out!

You could only 1-table, but the opponents were desperate to give you their money (and I mean; sailor-been-at-sea-for-three-years-in-a-whore-house desperate).

People will find it hard to believe now, but when the no-limit SNGs were first introduced on Pacific quite often half (or more) of the table would go all-in on the first hand and sitting out players would come second fairly often!!!

Party on the other hand, had the 4-table limit and was quite tight in comparison (ie: only sailor-been-at-sea-for-two-years-in-a-whore-house desperate to give you their money ).

Juk
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06-22-2014 , 07:17 AM
so a guy who can't speak clearly for a sentence, won on party…

(a Current Affair sound effect…)

Shocking…
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06-22-2014 , 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by FieryJustice
This seems like a fairly standard super hot old school short term run to me.
208% ROI, 97% ITM. Yup, totes standard.

In all seriousness, why would he filter his results that way? Other than a cameracrew coming in and filming his screen..
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06-22-2014 , 07:28 AM
LMAO @ the Antonius Quote at the end of the PLO video. His delivery of the line is awesome:

"He reminds me from Sammy Farha. He used to do this to me."
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06-22-2014 , 07:35 AM
That head tho
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06-22-2014 , 07:52 AM
i am only 29 but played online on 52 k modem on 888 it was like play money with real $
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06-22-2014 , 10:55 AM
Robl really is a great player and he is def better then anyone hating in this thread obv.
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06-22-2014 , 11:34 AM
Not sure what the deal is with the filter or whatever. But iirc the last month robl played sngs as his main game he put up an roi of like 45%, independently gathered data. Very good player, relatively soft games, even at 100 and 200s, and run good. He had an insane 1st 2nd distribution over his whole sng career, too. Again, some run good, but starting hu with all the chips helps too. He got the tail end of his sng career in before every table was 7+ pros, which was good timing.
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06-22-2014 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by kevmode
Robl really is a great player and he is def better then anyone hating in this thread obv.

Not at FR SNGs.
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