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Robbi's wild call with J4 vs Garrett Adelstein on Hustler Live Robbi's wild call with J4 vs Garrett Adelstein on Hustler Live
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View Poll Results: Was cheating involved?
Yes
395 45.04%
No
482 54.96%

09-30-2022 , 02:47 AM
She pulls the same “min raise the turn” play that gman accuses her of here with another marginally better hand vs a bluff attempt
09-30-2022 , 02:49 AM
Poker Achievement Unlocked 130G- Get cheated and refunded all within 30min. Wp
09-30-2022 , 02:50 AM
Now she bets on the river, gets called, states her hand and hands it toward the dealer face down ... apparently flashing it a little first. Just crazy goofy stuff. It's the winning hand, not a give up.
09-30-2022 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Backdoor Tr1ps
Earlier in the game Garret had a full house and she called off on the river
Is that the Q4 hand for Garrett? Robbi called the turn three ways drawing dead with a flush draw and then folded river to an over bet.

Or is there a different hand I can't find?
09-30-2022 , 02:53 AM
If anyone wants to bet on this dm me.

I want the side that Robbi cheated, up to 20k at evens. Must have an escrow.

Put your money where your mouth is, otherwise shut up.
09-30-2022 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
also she's in the same chair w the same water bottle

monkaS
I can’t tell if your being facetious but assuming you aren’t…does she always play with that water bottle in and in the same seat?
09-30-2022 , 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Couchsock
I can’t tell if your being facetious but assuming you aren’t…does she always play with that water bottle in and in the same seat?
i'm a moron, i thought stream was from diff day cuz pink hoodie guy was later wearing black latex or something. post deleted.

unless it is from a diff day, at which point i'd be more suspicious.
09-30-2022 , 02:59 AM
It’s from the same day. Didn’t think it was suspicious at the time but given later context, it’s a weird play to make
09-30-2022 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
I don't think robbi cheated, but I think the NVGtards need to pause and re-assess after the gman tweet.

Maybe lean more into the judgement/experience of a dude who's played in the biggest live LA games for over a decade and put more weight into his feeling he got cheated. He's earned that right to have that opinion.
+1

People who are so quick to say Gmans rep is tarnished and that he is a sore loser (after years of being known as a stand up guy etc) need to look at the bigger picture and appreciate that this guy has been in the public spotlight forever without incident
09-30-2022 , 03:02 AM
The AK turn raise hand is from today and it looks sus in hindsight.
09-30-2022 , 03:04 AM
Like most of the time AK is a fold there, otherwise you just call down. Why raise (giving him 5 to 1 to call) unless you know exactly where you’re at
09-30-2022 , 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by wholarry1
Like most of the time AK is a fold there, otherwise you just call down. Why raise (giving him 5 to 1 to call) unless you know exactly where you’re at
So which one is it, are bad players supposed to make bad plays or are they supposed to make the GTO play?

And why if some percentage of the time it's a raise, is it wrong of this player to raise?
09-30-2022 , 03:08 AM
Besides Gman, Matusow and Deeb both seem pretty convinced she cheated.
09-30-2022 , 03:12 AM
I’d also note 2 strange things that aren’t indicative of cheating but are not worthy: her Hendon mob shows she has generally played really low stake for 7 years with consistently. To play $100 and $200 tourneys then randomly show up in massive nosebleed games should be noted

Then supposedly faraz jaka says she just started playing this summer. Which is clearly untrue. Easiest to deduce that that’s what she told faraz. Which leads to why would she lie about that? Maybe she wanted to spread the word she’s a newbie so some of her plays don’t get scrutinized too much? Or maybe something far less nefarious. Tough to tell
09-30-2022 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by NotReddBoiler
Besides Gman, Matusow and Deeb both seem pretty convinced she cheated.
And none had any evidence other than how she reacted after winning. It's pretty bogus.

And then after Jared Jaffee spoke some truth.
09-30-2022 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jb`
People who are so quick to say Gmans rep is tarnished and that he is a sore loser (after years of being known as a stand up guy etc) need to look at the bigger picture and appreciate that this guy has been in the public spotlight forever without incident
This is not Gman's first incident.
09-30-2022 , 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by wholarry1
It’s from the same day. Didn’t think it was suspicious at the time but given later context, it’s a weird play to make
In hindsight her JQh flop c/r on j46ccc is also suspect. From watching her previous streams I would have guessed she never c/raises that flop with her exact hand. Problem is you can’t accuse someone definitively from a few hands
09-30-2022 , 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
This is not Gman's first incident.
shut up, nobody remembers Garrett whining about the game breaking after he crushed everybody and their bankrolls. lmao.
09-30-2022 , 03:20 AM
09-30-2022 , 03:21 AM
What if she just happened to see one or both of his cards? That would be super suspect and shady but not technically cheating correct? Would he pay her the money back if that was the case?
09-30-2022 , 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
What if she just happened to see one or both of his cards? That would be super suspect and shady but not technically cheating correct? Would he pay her the money back if that was the case?
She was in the 2 seat and he was in the 9. Does she have the best vision known to man?
09-30-2022 , 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by APG
So which one is it, are bad players supposed to make bad plays or are they supposed to make the GTO play?

And why if some percentage of the time it's a raise, is it wrong of this player to raise?
I think just like in the J4o hand, she doesn’t know it’s suspicious, she just knows somehow that she’s ahead and wants to extract more value

Is anyone raising that much as a bluff there? If not it’s just a really suspect value raise
09-30-2022 , 03:24 AM
So Robbi graduated from the Postle school of poker by playing straight air and then doing everything possible to induce a fold. I mean literally every street of that was perfect poker with her holdings knowing what Garrett had. This is exactly what postle would do hand after hand after hand. If she thought Jack high was good then she'd just call him down. Thats how you catch a bluff. When confronted she starts making up nonsense conflicting reasons, "i thought you had ace high, I thought I had a pair, " etc etc etc.
09-30-2022 , 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
This is not Gman's first incident.
Care to elaborate?
09-30-2022 , 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondsOnMyNeck
Interestingly enough, I was once cheated at a homegame and I believe they were using a system similar to what is being proposed. IE, simply knowing which seat will win at showdown and the cheater just has to make sure to not fold when given the signal.
Yea that wouldnt have signaled her but one of the people who folded what wouldve been the winner at showdown m8...

      
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