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06-18-2015 , 08:41 AM
NVG seems to be turning into BBV4life. People are so ****ing stupid who always come on here blaming OP saying **** like "shouldn't have had someone shady in your room". THAT IS BESIDES THE POINT. The point is the Rio opened a safe for some random ****ing person. Give me a ****ing break.

People get torn new aholes with threads.. "maid stole $10k from my bag.. I had the do not disturb sign up". Everyone says.. use the ****ing safe! Well this guy did. Apparently now you just have to stick your roll up your ass.
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06-18-2015 , 08:48 AM
i mean it is super obvious that they should have been more careful with letting the guy in the room alone, let alone at all but doesn't change the fact that the safe is redundant and they handled it very poorly. don't use these 'safes'

unbelievable at the % of posts that are 'OMG YOU LEFT GUY IN YOUR ROOM' as opposed to 'yes, rio opening safes randomly is pretty concerning'

that's nvg for you tho
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06-18-2015 , 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by browser2920
Every hotel i've stayed in has some fine print disclaimer that says while room safes are provided as a convenience, they are not responsible for anything left inside it, and you must use the safe deposit box for valuables.

So even though RIO violated their own protocol i wouldnt be surprised if they somehow use that disclaimer to avoid responsibility.

The disclaimer means nothing. In this case it would go down as negligence and they could be liable depending on Nevada state laws. However it might not be worth it to sue them. They would probably forbid them from ever stepping foot on their property.
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06-18-2015 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by onemoretimes
NVG seems to be turning into BBV4life. People are so ****ing stupid who always come on here blaming OP saying **** like "shouldn't have had someone shady in your room". THAT IS BESIDES THE POINT. The point is the Rio opened a safe for some random ****ing person. Give me a ****ing break.

People get torn new aholes with threads.. "maid stole $10k from my bag.. I had the do not disturb sign up". Everyone says.. use the ****ing safe! Well this guy did. Apparently now you just have to stick your roll up your ass.
No, everyone says: Use the deposit boxes. There are many threads on here regarding the use of room safes & how insecure they are (one particular one involving an ex-cop comes to mind).

For $15k, use a deposit box. Secondly, don't let sketchy dudes into your room to smoke weed. You won't get anything out of Rio unless it's a goodwill gesture from them, but gl and I hope you get your money back from the scumbag.
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06-18-2015 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by onemoretimes
NVG seems to be turning into BBV4life. People are so ****ing stupid who always come on here blaming OP saying **** like "shouldn't have had someone shady in your room". THAT IS BESIDES THE POINT. The point is the Rio opened a safe for some random ****ing person. Give me a ****ing break.

People get torn new aholes with threads.. "maid stole $10k from my bag.. I had the do not disturb sign up". Everyone says.. use the ****ing safe! Well this guy did. Apparently now you just have to stick your roll up your ass.
I think it's more like a strategy post where someone says i called a 4 bet with 7-4 off suit and then asks about a river situatin, and then gets upset when people say he should have folded preflop.

People appreciate that The RIO screwed up by not checking ID. But the combination of poor judgements that led up to that situation happening were all preventable, and similar type threads appear every year during WSOP time. I think that's why some people react harshly to those that say it's all the RIOs fault, because it isnt.
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06-18-2015 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jmurjeff
The disclaimer means nothing. In this case it would go down as negligence and they could be liable depending on Nevada state laws. However it might not be worth it to sue them. They would probably forbid them from ever stepping foot on their property.
Besides that how much would it cost them in legal fees to file a civil lawsuit for $15k? And how do they prove how much they had in the room safe anyway? This is a tough situation for them recover anything. Some bad press for the Rio and putting out the word on the likely suspect may be all they can get.
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06-18-2015 , 09:53 AM
Stop staying at the Rio.

Stop staying in places where you are setting yourself up to have a crappy summer.

Every year there's a story in the forums of someones room getting robbed at the Rio.

Poker players , I thought were a really smart group of humans. Now , when I read stories of how you come to thieves paradise and leave lots of cash in your room , then invite degens that you don't really know into your private area , with your personal belongings and then you leave them there to watch over your stuff. Not intelligent. Donk Moves.

Why not stay in a rental? Why not be smart and take precautions while in Vegas, and

NOT TRUST ANYONE.

Change the title to : Poker players give money away being LAXXED
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06-18-2015 , 09:57 AM
After a that whole jeans thing. How can every high stakes guy not have some kind of teddy cam incognito camera type setup that auto gets uploaded to a cloud type service when you leave the room now?
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06-18-2015 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by xalas
what? scamming by filing false police reports in the hope that the Hotel ignores their own protocol?

that's what you think people would be doing everyday, really?
Yes really! That's exactly what I am saying.

People don't already do this because the casino DOESNT already pay out for things like this. If they did, it would be occurring a lot more.

Smackhead one: "did you hear the RIO paid out 15k that got stolen in a room safe"

Smackhead two: "really? wanna go check in?"

Smackhead one: "sure why not"

This is exactly how it would go down, and this is exactly why they don't pay out.
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06-18-2015 , 10:05 AM
I hope they cancel the last bill at least, as they promised it was for free...

The smell in the room from fresh smoking and the extra guys alone in your room (not registered) it is not helping your cause.

I suppose the police should be able to find this guy in one day as he is probably playing with your money...
Still very naive on the all situation as it happened, especially for an experience player
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06-18-2015 , 10:08 AM
Operator: Hi, may I help you?

Omar: I'd like to order room service

Operator: Sure, what would you like?

Omar: An egg-white omelette with green peppers, onions, tomato, and cheese

Operator: Got it, anything else sir?

Omar: Yes, can you send up security to open my room safe? I forgot my combination.

Operator: Sure, is that all?

Omar: A glass of OJ too
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06-18-2015 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
Operator: Hi, may I help you?

Omar: I'd like to order room service

Operator: Sure, what would you like?

Omar: An egg-white omelette with green peppers, onions, tomato, and cheese

Operator: Got it, anything else sir?

Omar: Yes, can you send up security to open my room safe? I forgot my combination.

Operator: Sure, is that all?

Omar: A glass of OJ too

Omar: btw - I was hoping to have a little fun while here.

Operator: Las Vegas can be a fun place.

Omar: I was thinking 3 girls: one white, one black, one Asian, an ounce of blow, a pound of smoke, and 3 bottles of Johnny Walker Blue.

Operator: Sounds like a fun party. Would you want the girls for the whole night?

Omar: Yes.

Operator: Checking availability we should be able to manage everything within the hour. Total cost $22k +50% gratuity. How will you be paying?

Omar: Charge it to the room?

Operator: Of course sir. Thank you.
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06-18-2015 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kalrex
Roommate was either in on it or a really stupid person. Probably both.
+1
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06-18-2015 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CoachMcGuirk
They went up to the room to smoke weed.
Well there you go kids...the free lesson of the day - Don't do drugs.

+1 for the Rio should NEVER open a safe without matching the room information to the person asking plus their ID.
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06-18-2015 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RecreationalPlayer
Yes really! That's exactly what I am saying.

People don't already do this because the casino DOESNT already pay out for things like this. If they did, it would be occurring a lot more.

Smackhead one: "did you hear the RIO paid out 15k that got stolen in a room safe"

Smackhead two: "really? wanna go check in?"

Smackhead one: "sure why not"

This is exactly how it would go down, and this is exactly why they don't pay out.
or

Rio Exec one: "did you hear that we had to pay out 15k that got stolen in a room safe because our own guys let the thief into the safe because we didn't check his ID"

Rio Exec two: "really? we better do a better job protecting our customers valuables so some smackhead doesn't exploit the situation due to our own screw-ups "

Smackhead one: "Did you hear that the Rio is now following their own security protocols"

Smackhead two: "Rats!"
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06-18-2015 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Dontstakeminors
I hope this isn't considered victim blaming but leaving someone you don't know in your room with valuables and 15k cash is utterly absurd and the roommate is to blame. I know, I know, the security didn't follow protocol but those guys aren't Rio Security because they finished top of the class at Quantico
I agree. Don't allow sketchy people around when you have that much cash. Motel safes aint the best anyway.
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06-18-2015 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by xalas
or

Rio Exec one: "did you hear that we had to pay out 15k that got stolen in a room safe because our own guys let the thief into the safe because we didn't check his ID"

Rio Exec two: "really? we better do a better job protecting our customers valuables so some smackhead doesn't exploit the situation due to our own screw-ups "

Smackhead one: "Did you hear that the Rio is now following their own security protocols"

Smackhead two: "Rats!"
The sad thing is, my fantasy conversation isnt as far fetched as yours.
I can only assume you have never stayed at the RIO
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06-18-2015 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by xalas
or

Rio Exec one: "did you hear that we had to pay out 15k that got stolen in a room safe because our own guys let the thief into the safe because we didn't check his ID"

Rio Exec two: "really? we better do a better job protecting our customers valuables so some smackhead doesn't exploit the situation due to our own screw-ups "

Smackhead one: "Did you hear that the Rio is now following their own security protocols"

Smackhead two: "Rats!"
Only Security says they DID* check the ID shown and the name matched the room holder. Who you gonna believe: Security or two poker degens that were smoking up in the room?

How does the roommate or the room holder know that ID was not asked for?


*Don't know if they said that, but that is what I would say if I were them.
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06-18-2015 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by browser2920
Every hotel i've stayed in has some fine print disclaimer that says while room safes are provided as a convenience, they are not responsible for anything left inside it, and you must use the safe deposit box for valuables.

So even though RIO violated their own protocol i wouldnt be surprised if they somehow use that disclaimer to avoid responsibility.
I'm pretty sure this is written directly on the safe somewhere too.

Also, if you need to store 15k ...most, if not all, casinos have safe deposit boxes .
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06-18-2015 , 10:49 AM
My money is on the roommate being the thief. The "I had 10k stolen" is a classic misdirection.

Also, the instantly freaking out when "Omar" wasn't in the room is weird. Maybe if the safe door was swinging open I'd understand, but the safe was closed.

Last edited by bpb; 06-18-2015 at 10:54 AM.
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06-18-2015 , 10:54 AM
I used to know omar. hell of a poker player..also hell of a gambler.

back in like 2010-11 I saw him win a tourney at borgata for like 8k. the next night he was asking people in the poker room for $5 each so he could enter into the nightly tourn. I asked him what happened to the 8k, and he said he lost it all betting horses. I gave him the $20 more he needed to enter the tourn. he won it lol
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06-18-2015 , 11:00 AM
I have no idea what is happening itt. Nvg sucks so hard sometimes. Not holding the rio accountable for this is absurd. They way way way f'd up. Not saying op and friend didn't make bad choices but that doesn't excuse the rio opening the safe.
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06-18-2015 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by restorativejustice
Only Security says they DID* check the ID shown and the name matched the room holder. Who you gonna believe: Security or two poker degens that were smoking up in the room?

How does the roommate or the room holder know that ID was not asked for?


*Don't know if they said that, but that is what I would say if I were them.
Security says but they DID check ID, HOWEVER the rightful owner can be seen on the security cams at the Casino? how are they going to lie if there was evidence that the guess was at another location?

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Originally Posted by CoachMcGuirk
The incident appears to have occurred at approximately 10:30 pm on Thursday night. My roommate was playing craps at the time of the incident, I was in the poker room. My roommate went to talk to me in the poker room around 11:45 and left to go to the room a little after midnight. About 10 minutes later I get a frantic call from him freaking out because Omar's bags were suddenly missing and Omar wasn't answering his phone after responding to several texts until roughly 30 minutes prior.
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06-18-2015 , 11:17 AM
The friend that let the guy into the room, should pay the other guy for the screw up tbh.
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06-18-2015 , 11:19 AM
You know how most people hold them accountable? Same way they held Rio accountable for the last dozen horror stories: not staying there to begin with.
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