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09-04-2016 , 09:28 AM

#126

torodwan

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Originally Posted by Mason Malmuth

Hi jadbral:

Dreyfus has also inquired about buying Two Plus Two interactive LLC (this website but not the publishing company) and we have told him it's not for sale.

Best wishes,
Mason

Maybe he can get the 2+2 Android app updated?

Thanks
Toro

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09-04-2016 , 09:29 AM

#127

TopPair2Pair

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Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,525

I look forward to when Mason purchases the GPL Index et al.

Would be a sick check raise.

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09-04-2016 , 11:00 AM

#128

riverboatking

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Originally Posted by PTLou

Of course it is! Ducy

Would you sell it for $5,450,000,000 ?

just because something can be purchased for some amount of money doesn't mean it's for sale.

being able to be purchased and being for sale are two different things in our vernacular, so if ur gonna troll at least be clever and not trite.

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09-04-2016 , 11:06 AM

#129

Roger Mainfield

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Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 5,200

Cheers for the thread, most people wouldn't have posted anything, at the detriment of the community.

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09-04-2016 , 11:18 AM

#130

SickerThanYoAvg

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 126

With all due respect, BBV and fedor are straight up fools. The best thing that can happen from a loan is you get paid back. Loaning anyone money is stupid and if you're loaning money to people you don't really know you deserve to get taken. This guy is supposed to be running a poker league and he's short on cash. Is that not the biggest red flag ever? Guess being good at poker has no correlation with any actual common sense

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09-04-2016 , 11:33 AM

#131

Kenny S

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Dreyfus was having a "very bad day."

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09-04-2016 , 11:43 AM

#132

gregorio

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Originally Posted by SickerThanYoAvg

It was never a loan. It was cash for transfer. He didn't make the transfer. Ianal but that's fraud or theft or w/e, not a loan. It's like if you order something online and they process your payment and don't ship it to you. You're not loaning them that money. There was never any loan here. They got robbed or defrauded.

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09-04-2016 , 11:59 AM

#133

PTLou

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5,516

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Originally Posted by riverboatking

my family is not for sale.

my good health is not for sale.

I was led to believe that all assets are always for sale at the right price. Thats what makes the world go around.

evidently alex didn't have the right price. I'd guess bout $350,000,000 would have been way more than enough even $35,000,000, maybe $3,500,000, probably not $350,000. dunno.

regarding the OP, sounds like Alex asked for a transfer and really needed a loan. should have just been upfront and avoided the embarrassment.

but you are correct.. in the world of trolls, I'm likely just a bad reg.

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09-04-2016 , 12:02 PM

#134

TimStone

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Originally Posted by TopPair2Pair

I look forward to when Mason purchases the GPL Index et al.

Would be a sick check raise.

Mason doesnt do bad investments though

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09-04-2016 , 12:32 PM

#135

Kenny S

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Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,183

I've got the capital. We have the finals at Madison Square Garden, no Wembley Stadium.....I don't care if nobody pays cause I have the capital. I now decide my team is not ready. LMAO only poker players could fall for this guy. (Negreanu podcast)

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09-04-2016 , 12:34 PM

#136

Cerebral

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Originally Posted by fakelogic

It's been said, but this is not a one-off mistake and can't get over how people wouldn't want this guy's reputation to be tarnished regardless of his "intent". This is clearly a pattern of freerolling. He attempted to weasel/lawyer Aaron Massey and others out of their Main Event seat and now it's come out he mislead/tricked more than one person this summer into a forced loan. It doesn't matter whether he paid out or not, any future agreements with this guy should be avoided and believe any people/companies who choose to work with him should also be criticized. Let's just keep repeating to ourselves, this is a pattern.

Also, from the replies I guess I'm pretty glad I put SageDonkey on my ignore list a couple years ago.

Once a lack of character is shown in regards to financial dealings; all future involvement with said individual should be scrupulously reviewed.

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09-04-2016 , 12:36 PM

#137

PeteBlow

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Originally Posted by Kenny S

There were some fairly vocal posters on these boards about how he was not be trusted. Didn't make an ounce of difference though.

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09-04-2016 , 12:51 PM

#138

PeteBlow

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=108

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09-04-2016 , 12:51 PM

#139

Sellout

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Originally Posted by TopPair2Pair

I look forward to when Mason purchases the GPL Index et al.

Would be a sick check raise.

Wait for court ordered bankruptcy sale.

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09-04-2016 , 01:07 PM

#140

riverboatking

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Originally Posted by PTLou

my family is not for sale.

my good health is not for sale.

I was led to believe that all assets are always for sale at the right price. Thats what makes the world go around.

oh really?

so you wouldn't start smoking cigarettes and eating junk food way more than you should for 100 billion dollars?

I'd bet your good health is most definitely "for sale" by your definition.

once again just because something can be purchased or influenced by a nearly infinite amount of money that no one will ever actually offer, doesn't mean it's for sale.

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09-04-2016 , 01:14 PM

#141

Videopro

Making TV

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I think that when someone refuses to toss out an asking price and tells you to pound sand, the item is not for sale to that individual.

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09-04-2016 , 01:30 PM

#142

Atarirob

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Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,618

I've been around 2+2 long enough to know of stories that start "in the past they even paid interest when late"

Good job calling this one out quickly.

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09-04-2016 , 02:28 PM

#143

madlex

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Originally Posted by SickerThanYoAvg

With all due respect, BBV and fedor are straight up fools. The best thing that can happen from a loan is you get paid back.

There never was a loan, they agreed on a swap and Alex didn't honor that agreement.

For Europeans in Vegas, it's highly desirable to swap $ cash for € bank transfers because you don't have to travel with lots of money (and the potential hassle) and also avoid conversion fees if you decide to change $ for € at a bank.

Hendrik had every right to create this thread. Not only does he warn others from potential problems while dealing with Alex, he also makes sure that other people he deals with know, that he's willing to out them if they don't honor their part of an agreement. That's an important thing when you deal with as many people as Hendrik does.

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09-04-2016 , 02:55 PM

#144

PTLou

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Originally Posted by Professionalpoker

I think that when someone refuses to toss out an asking price and tells you to pound sand, the item is not for sale to that individual.

Riverboat heat I can take. Two of you together and way too much heat for my bad reg troll skills.

I stand corrected and was wrong and apologize to Mr. Malmuth

2+2 is NOT for sale at any reasonable or even any mildly unreasonable price

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09-04-2016 , 03:22 PM

#145

bbfg

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So the guy running a company that is trying to get poker in the mainstream again is the type that brags he's "wealthy af" and then caught scamming people for amounts that should be pocket change to people "wealthy af".

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09-04-2016 , 11:37 PM

#146

TimStone

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HE DID NOT SCAM ANYBODY.
While this all looks shady and very questionable both parties where paid teh entire sum+interest.
I dont know if you got scammed but if you do you normally don't get your money back (or only part)

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09-05-2016 , 01:14 AM

#147

fakelogic

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Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,900

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimStone

You're arguing semantics. If some kid stole your kid's lunch money on the playground, but their parents forced them to give it back w/ an apology, was it not stealing in the first place?

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09-05-2016 , 01:18 AM

#148

Kenny S

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Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,183

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Originally Posted by fakelogic

You're arguing semantics. If some kid stole your kid's lunch money on the playground, but their parents forced them to give it back w/ an apology, was it not stealing in the first place?

Yeah but my kid would have lunch money AF on pay back day!

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09-05-2016 , 02:13 AM

#149

BOANGTAO

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Thought he was a well know hustler to the community already, obviously not

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09-05-2016 , 02:34 AM

#150

.isolated

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Alex most likely would've never paid OP back if he never noticed that he was missing $20k from Alex. Alex never brought it up and I find it hard to believe he would've. That's something we'll never know but we can easily assume it.

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