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04-09-2010 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MysticoN
I would like to see you making the worlds greatest shuffling machine.
whooosh
04-09-2010 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pfc_ivan12323232
Letting ppl select the deck being cut, and showing them the 3 burn cards have nothing do to with anything. That is just what you see. What exactly happens at their side of the program, we will never know.

lawl at everyone thinking this is more fair then any other site.

They can just be doing this to make it seem like its real, but behind the screens they have a RNG and deal the cards that way.
your point? this is just another layer of confidence they are adding. Whos to say what FTP is doing is not rigged. THEM?! there is absolutely no reason to trust any thing any one says at any time online.

It's not about being 100% fail proof true. I'm not saying this is the end all be all of online poker. It's about adding confidence to frankly something nobody should have 100% confidence in.

Any one who has played online poker and I mean anyone, has had a moments where you seriously doubt the legitimacy of a hand. If you learn to play better those doubts slip away however we still all have those moments.

To say this will fail is completely ignorant of the online poker market. I'd venture to say that 30% of every single person who's played online has re occuring doubts or plays with little trust of the online site.

If people took the time to understand something they would realize the issues they have are not really issues.

It's going to be played at the same rate as any other site. *no delays*
Your allowed to cut the "deck" (the ordered cards). Yeah I know who's to say it actually happens but whos to say Full Tilt is random or Stars is random. You just have to trust what they say.

If this doesn't take off ( I do not believe it will be the next big thing ) it will become a side site that people go to. Something like cake or carbon. Not huge but profitable for the owners.

You guys need to lighten up and accept progress.
04-09-2010 , 07:12 PM
LOL @ people comparing it to casinos, they put a hand through a machine and videotape it, they don't have a dealer sitting there digitally dealing every card for you. Exactly the same as every other poker site except its run by a moron, will be slower, and costs a lot more. The shuffling machine is just a poor RNG.
04-09-2010 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by InfiniteIEG
progress.
hahahahahaha
04-09-2010 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PunkFloyd510
LOL @ people comparing it to casinos, they put a hand through a machine and videotape it, they don't have a dealer sitting there digitally dealing every card for you. Exactly the same as every other poker site except its run by a moron, will be slower, and costs a lot more. The shuffling machine is just a poor RNG.

Wow people are ****ing idiots. That's not how it works. Read the other thread too, seems most people are not even understanding it before they open their mouths.

Let's see if we can make this easier for you idiots.
  • It uses a machine to random shuffle a deck.
  • The machine records each card in order.
  • It saves this order of cards as a file or script (not sure).
  • It sends this file to your table and deals accordingly.
  • You are allowed to cut the deck (order) or burn a card.
  • There is not a machine for each table.
  • There are not video cams for each player.
  • It is probably generating thousands of sequences as we speak.
  • STFU you stupid noobs. It's a decent idea.
04-09-2010 , 07:22 PM
So we're gonna from OMG RIGGED to OMG THE DEALING MACHINE IS RIGGED.
04-09-2010 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by InfiniteIEG
Any one who has played online poker and does not understand variance, has had a moments where you seriously doubt the legitimacy of a hand. If you learn to play better those doubts slip away however we still all have those moments.
fyp

Last edited by equalsfour?; 04-09-2010 at 07:24 PM. Reason: over under on how long it takes this moran to get banned
04-09-2010 , 07:26 PM
Scanning a deck of cards into a computer, which in itself is capable of flying a rocket to the moon, nevermind randomizing card sequences efficiently, in place of the computerized technology and mathematical algorithms, is not "progress".
04-09-2010 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by equalsfour?
fyp
wow dude...you never have anything positive to say. called me a moron because I said people have doubts. Wow. Variance? Really? Did you know what variance was the first time you played poker? Queer? Oh sorry didn't mean to name call. Donkey. Or did I? I don't know I feel like a moron.

I've been through the a lot of your posts and I see a very depressed person. You need to cheer up man. Every day you go through life hating people and being angry is another day you could've been happy.
04-09-2010 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mrrpb
Scanning a deck of cards into a computer, which in itself is capable of flying a rocket to the moon, nevermind randomizing card sequences efficiently, in place of the computerized technology and mathematical algorithms, is not "progress".
not technological progress........

progress in the Rigged segment of online poker.
04-09-2010 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by InfiniteIEG
Wow people are ****ing idiots. That's not how it works. Read the other thread too, seems most people are not even understanding it before they open their mouths.

Let's see if we can make this easier for you idiots.
  • It uses a machine to random shuffle a deck.
  • The machine records each card in order.
  • It saves this order of cards as a file or script (not sure).
  • It sends this file to your table and deals accordingly.
  • You are allowed to cut the deck (order) or burn a card.
  • There is not a machine for each table.
  • There are not video cams for each player.
  • It is probably generating thousands of sequences as we speak.
  • STFU you stupid noobs. It's a decent idea.
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Originally Posted by InfiniteIEG
wow dude...you never have anything positive to say. called me a moron because I said people have doubts. Wow. Variance? Really? Did you know what variance was the first time you played poker? Queer? Oh sorry didn't mean to name call. Donkey. Or did I? I don't know I feel like a moron.

I've been through the a lot of your posts and I see a very depressed person. You need to cheer up man. Every day you go through life hating people and being angry is another day you could've been happy.
really? i must be getting leveled again
04-09-2010 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by InfiniteIEG
not technological progress........

progress in the Rigged segment of online poker.
There's a rigged segment of online poker?
04-09-2010 , 07:33 PM
Locked, discussion has been going on in the thread in Internet Poker:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...hy-hate-687733
04-09-2010 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ikaros
I don't get it. If I suspect that poker sites are rigged, why would I trust another site that claims they are special, somehow.
Doesnt special stand for re**r*ed
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