...and cranky prejudice is a common characteristic of oldsters.

i totally agree w leatherass, that was a great post.

Heh, ok.
The thread got derailed so I`ll comment on the blog I guess.
I think the guy needs some media training but I`ll give him some points for honesty.
The blog will prolly be well recieved by the -20 crowd and I would guess that that`s their target audience anyway so it`s cool.
However, to a lil more older and wiser people the blog sounds like a big whine coming from a spoiled kid.
It reminds me of a young celeb girl that whines about paparazzies following her everywhere.
On one hand she likes the attention but on the other hand she is naive enough to think that she should be able to do her "common annonymus girl" thing whenever she feels like it.
right..

Flip Flop can I do a timeline bet just on depositing? I don't have to even be busto, I just lose if I deposit money on any poker site from my bank account.

LOL arrogant little....

i read both blog posts and agreed with both. the 2nd post was far better. well done raptor.

also... let me say this...

I ADDED A WELL KNOWN HIGH-STAKES 2P2ER ON FACEBOOK. i did not know him or anyone he knows. i'm thousands of miles away in the UK. i put in a small message when adding him saying that i was just a fan... and not a stalker. i also said i would probably reject me if i was him so it's totally understandable if he did to me.

he accepted. i have not stalked. i have not written on his wall. i am nowhere near busto. i play small-stakes and win. i am also really into poker. i didn't add him because he plays high stakes though. i liked his forum posts and he seemed a cool guy.

i've never asked him about tuition or staking and never will. but technically, i am one of those weirdos who adds HSNL players without knowing them. not all of us are busto, stake-hunting stalkers.

or maybe he just has 4 million online?

you all have to realize its b/c u live next to a college campus, and its not "normal" for students to live in super baller houses, and all that shiz, they're poor essentially. You need to make jokes back, or at least explain urself so people know to lay off. Like "turn this 100 into 500," and you say why don't I just give you 400, so they know your irritated but in good humor, or if you say, Ill probably lose the 100 more than win the 500. I know its weird, but when you feel like ur gonna offend someone u usually do, but most people will realize the outlandishness of their suggestion if your reply doesn't have apprehension.

Well... you're missing a lot of EV in reload bonuses.

no I'm just not an idiot and find it funny when randoms think that every young successful poker player is immature and irresponsible with their money

On another note, responding to a5wantinga10, I really don't have a problem with people facebook friending me in that matter. But some of them do go overboard with messages and stalkerish stuff and that's when it's annoying. I never reject any friend requests though.

Leatherass,
Very nice post I am busto relative to HSNL, but Robusto relative to 2p2 and my friends I keep quite about it but when people talk about it I am generally okay talking about it because it is relatively novel. The only things that bother me is can you turn $50--> $500 and "Come on you won $x you can afford an extra beer." That would be acceptable if they bought me stuff when I was downswonging, which obv won't happen.

Shaniac REALLY nailed this thread.

To the people complaining about the never-ending stream of idiotic questions: here's a tip, hang out with smarter people that aren't idiots. It's mostly just a factor of age, because most of my friends are in their late 20s to early 30s, but they never ask these stupid questions (not even at first). When you hang out with complete morons, you should expect moronic questions.

Furthermore, again as shaniac and a few others have said, getting asked the same questions over and over are a symptom of ANY profession that the general public doesn't know EVERYTHING about. That is the case of MOST professions. Furthermore, the only reason they ask stupid questions is because they do not know much about the life of an online grinder. I mean can you really expect them to? This is a pretty new "profession", it didn't even exist until about 10 years ago. On top of everything else, being a successful poker player is as close to the "American dream" as almost anyone can reasonably expect. Set your own hours, take months off at a time, be your own boss and not answer to "the man", work from anywhere you want, no experience required, no requirements for family business or government connections. I can't think of any other career that is truly open to so many people, such desirable working conditions, and such high wages. There's a reason people ask a lot of questions. They probably think it's too good to be true and you are like all the people that think they have a system to beat craps.

HU for farms?

Actually I`m shocked then none of the "cool kiddies" challenged me to HU4ROLLZ already.
Kids are growing up so fast these days..
Ok then...+1 point for Stinger, -1 for cockyness though.

???? Most jobs, the biggest stresses people face is idle office gossip. The rest of the work is relatively mindless and under no CONSTANT scrutiny demanding peak performance. On top of all that, most other jobs you can't outperform the entire office and then lose a month's pay for no reason.

Yes, we generally work less hours, but the hours we put in our much more grueling the most jobs.

Krantz, I think you are demonstrating a high amount of delusion here:

I forgive your youthful naivety and the fact that you are writing from the perspective of what you know, which is playing poker during the first poker boom of its kind, but you are out of your mind if you think that "playing poker profesionally is far more psychologically taxing" than just about any other job, especially the type commonly available to unskilled people in their 20s. Have you ever had a boss? A job other than poker?

Most people in their 20s are broke as **** with ****loads of debt and limited, dubious prospects for the future. There is nothing more "psychologically taxing" than that. When I was 20, I was certainly in that category, working as a bike messenger in NYC for $100-$150/day (a good day), and there was literally no such thing as online poker. There was hardly even an internet.

The fact that I have to even spell this stuff out is a reflection of how insular the world is that you, FWF and your kind live in. I am not dissing you, I am just letting you know as a matter of fact that there is a lot about the world outside of yours that you are clueless about. Again, I don't blame you, because I'm sure I'd be just as near-sighted about these matters if I had enjoyed the opportunity and level of success that you did at such a young age.

Anyway, none of this had to do with my original point, which is that Raptor just needs to find more interesting friends, because if he really thinks he's the most conversation-centerpiece-worthy person he's capable of meeting in the world, he's pretty far off. My point to you is that you might want to take more accurate stock of what "psychologically taxing" really means, when most people your age will never have money, never experience the joy of independence and being able to set their own hours and lifestyle, and never understand the feeling of accomplishment associated with harnessing one's natural talent.

Maybe you should bet a better grasp on sample size. Just because that's how it works with your group of "friends," doesn't mean that qualifies you to intelligently use the term "mostly," when dealing with this situation.


I've been reading these boards for years and I used to think you were a very intelligent person, but I can see more and more that you really might be going crazy. Seriously, get a clue about things before you make comments like this.





edit: i just realized that you might be kidding about this stuff, in which case, A+

Spot on Shane, but I don't think Raptor ever mentioned this, or though this, and at the very least, I doubt he ever meant it.

Raptor touched my naughty bits.

you guys are describing different things. Sure being broke with no prospects is easily more psychologically taxing than tough work, BUT when it comes down to the actual job, not your financial situation apart from the job, poker is more psychologically taxing than most jobs. I don't think krantz was implying his life is much tougher than most people's lives.

this is also laughably wrong.

man I'm coming into this discussion soo late but I just wanted to throw in a +1 for lifetilting whenever someone asks if I can count cards or if I can afford to pay the rent month to month from "gambling.."

also, how is raptor possibly getting **** for something he wrote in a personal blog?? yeah, I guess that his sentiments might seem a bit stuck-up to some, but when you can't ever go out without having your livelihood in effect questioned, and essentially being put on the spot all the time to defend that you what you do for a living is sustainable and profitable, yeah it gets irritating at times. raptor just happens to have the balls to air out his thoughts in a public forum whereas a lot of other high stakes players just internalize the irritation.

I'd like you to explain why I'm wrong. I'm obviously exaggerating in my post, but I think the point remains.

To your first point, I was using the idea mostly as a signifier that intelligent people with life experience are less likely to ask you to turn their $50 into $200 then young broke kids with no life experience. I'd be very surprised if this correlation is inaccurate.

To the second point, I don't know too many jobs that if you decide to give your B game instead of A game for 15 minutes you will get docked money from your paycheck.


Can you explain more why I'm wrong instead of just stating it?

why? It might be different for live mtt pros vs 12-tabling cash game pros.

lol, can someone explain to me what a "personal blog" is? You realize these thoughts were published on the internet, not sitting in Raptor's diary in his desk drawer, right? I've heard AEJones also express his disbelief that--who'd have thunk it?--people read and respond to things they read in blogs! They from opinions about the authors of the blogs, too. Guys, if you don't want people to react or respond to your "personal blogs" then just don't hit the "publish" button. Otherwise, deal with the fact that the thoughts you broadcast to the world will leave an impression on the people who read them somewhat indefinitely.