There's a lot of people that don't understand health insurance, not just pros. Pretty shallow, albeit expected, for you to single out pros.

First of all, Obamacare made it such that an insurance company cannot deny insurance based on current health and preexisting conditions, so you're wrong on that (shocker).

And yes, when you get sick as ****, they'll just keep raising the rates until you cannot afford the insurance and then cancel you due to delinquency and/or deny claims. That's what 20 years of premium payments will get you.

I hadn't had to see a doctor for years, and I went twice to a GP. My premiums were raised over $150 per month more. That's $1800 a year, every year, because of two appointments that cost them a total of less than $200 and I didn't see the doctor for years again. That's not being cynical; that's the system being ****ed up.

Now my entire family's plans keep soaring as me, the societal loser leechy pro, who purchases his own health insurance plans directly for the family, subsidizes those forced to buy, and other low-income types, government subsidized plans by having to pay way higher premiums than everyone else. Get a clue.

I see. You got paid to work from home so you went to the card room to gamble. Stellar employee.

Just because it is hard doesn't make it naive, not at all.

This is what I was referring to bump.

It's not even hard to do, as the US already has a social insurance program in place. It's called Medicare, and it kicks in when you are 65.

man u are so pathetic, u have to round on a random comment where u have no clue about context to try and jab back. Thats all u have. The US healthcare system no one outside gives a fk about either. We were talking generally, not everything is about america

continue with your degenerate ways by all means guys, your funeral. Online is clearly fked and will be dead soon. So that leaves BM, and if that what u what to do with your lives well that says plenty about you. i get the trap u are in, i was momentarily blinded by WSOPs bling too. The smart ones however, including me, saw the writing on the wall with BF and moved on and are now sitting pretty. Shame u were too addicted and morally loathsome to see it . Grind on and gl, cos u sure going to need it

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You are cute, princess. If we're talking in general, then most developed countries, with the exception of the US, has some type of universal healthcare in place, so yeah, US healthcare is what we're talking about, genius.

Insurance companies rape people until they get to Medicare age, then the gov subsidizes a large portion (by previous fica withholding from Medicare recipients, current taxpayers and private insurance purchasers like me) until they die.

If the actuaries determine a 60-year-old is drawing too high of a cost:benefit ratio, then they decline a doctor's request for a test. Since when should an insurance company (nothing more than gamblers taking the best of it) decide whether a doctor's recommendation is not sufficient for a patient's healthcare? This is super common.

You probably live where there's universal healthcare, so stfu about **** you don't know about. If you live in the US, then wake the **** up. The algorithms the actuaries use for the insurance companies puts to shame the huds you whine about, and their number crunching is dealing with people's welfare and not just exploiting someone's bet oop vs missed cb on turn frequency that you were too lazy to figure out.


Lol wsop bling. I started playing in the early 90's.

Yeah, you are sitting pretty with your broken ankle trying to make a few bucks grinding out 1/2 when your employer thinks you are home fielding phone calls for the business. Yeah, okay... did you hit the daily double with the ponies on the way home, too? How much time do you spend posting on 2+2 rather than doing something productive at your desk?

.5 posts a day last i looked, you get worse and worse Ive never played 1/2, and my LC only operates poker after 6pm. Pretty sure now you are not a pro just some loser blowing off his inheritance pretending to be one. Youre just too thick

Amadan...sorry this thread it did, as i agree with your sentiment that its an awful career path. At least LoL and others are doing a good job of demonstrating that.

just wow at the "6 months since BF" thread, thanks for that 2Outs . Never seen it before, Super depressing read that should be warning enough

If your card room opens at 6pm (after office hours, ldo), then how did busting your ankle and working from home give you "a lot of spare time for grinding poker"?

If you don't agree with any of that then your opinion is invalid in my eyes and there's no need to continue discussing with you....you're clearly out of touch with reality and not worth going back and forth with.

I'm not a pro just an observer that can see you have some issues if you need to rip apart pros all day to make yourself feel good.....the fact that you post nearly 2k posts a year proves one of the following - either you post a lot of drivel or you love to argue with people over the internet to feed your insecurities. Either way you should work on this and hopefully one day you'll be happy.

I'm quite happy. I'm quite secure. I have a life I wouldn't trade for anything. It's a lot better than that of someone who plays low-stakes poker 60 hours a week "for a living" while still being at home with Mom and Dad at age 27.

The non-points you think you made above were addressed already; I post considerably less than many of the regulars here, and I doubt I even have a few hundred posts in seven years commenting on pro poker players. I'm on here about half an hour a week, which doesn't seem to me to qualify as "all day".

GADFLY^^

I think all that matters is that you are doing what you want to do. If you are strong and enjoy the freedom poker can be a good choice for you. That being said nothing will be easy. Poker certainly will not be easy. The same goes for the corporate world.

Why is time spent on the forum thrown around as a measure of how ****ty your life is? If anything it's a testament to how much free time you have, and I'd choose lounging around at home on the internet over most social outings most of the time.

Sounds like a bunch of insecure people on both sides.

Poker is a lot like basketball or football. People at the top make bank. People in the middle can do very well or very poorly depending on how they handle their money. And people on the bottom would of been better off doing something else.

I've never understood this. It's used as a measure of accomplishment and credibility until the people debating don't like each other, at which point the one who posts less uses it to bash the one with the higher count. It's nonsensical. I average something like 5.2 posts a day, which means I probably spend 3 or 4 minutes posting when I'm here.

This I believe since you evidently put no thought into your posts.

Seems the opposite is the case, given that I've Reagan/Mondale'd you on the tax issue to the point that you've spent days foolishly flipping out and name-calling over it. Face it, you haven't said a thing yet that makes sense, nor do you ever have any fact to provide to bolster arguments you realized were wrong last week. I'm sorry you're butthurt over it, but it's true.

Ah, you want to talk about taxes again...

If we're scoring this debate I have LOL ahead of 2Outs and Bump FWIW not that I feel passionately for either side of the argument.

I'll take the cool calm composure over the somewhat manic obsession any day but keep going.

And I don't buy 2outs 3 minutes a day argument......Does that include reading time?

At no point did I state "anyone". Mainly just you. Come on, a quick look at your post history reveals you have a chip on your shoulder about poker.

It actually seems like you compare yourself to the biggest loser poker players to feel better about yourself. Remember that post you made about your degen "friend"? http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/26...ervene-886447/ Holy crap, that was sad. You were pretending like you want to help out your loser friend when you're thinly veiled basking at his failures and bragging about your comparatively better situation. Same story there and here in this post, and people called you out on there. Fortunately, not all poker players are like your "friend". Like attracts like, and that was the kind of friend you made.

Why don't you try comparing yourself to more successful poker players or people
with full time jobs like you? Can't measure up so you have to keep proving yourself on here, post after post, for years? Pathetic.

As someone who has played poker professionally for about 10 years, I respect this comment and hold similar views. It is unlike people like 2outsnoprob's comments which are obviously biased and self serving. I think this is an honest and reasonable look into what may happen to many (not all) who choose this route.


Unless you are anti-social or have antisocial personality disorder, grinding live games full time for years can really wear on ones' soul. It is difficult to maintain that life balance; it requires a lot of self discipline, not to mention you encounter many unsavory characters or people generally at their worst at the casinos. I don't plan on continuing to do this into my thirties and forties and have saved up money to invest and produce passive income. I agree that people need to approach choosing poker as a career with caution. But I still hold a lot of respect for those who choose to do it and do it with integrity and discipline. It's not easy going against the grain to do what makes you truly happy.

Yeah, sure, keep proving to us what a great life you have especially compared to the losingest poker degens

And how little time you spent in these forums

Please write us another long bulleted list of all your life accomplishments and how little time you have for 2p2 posts. It only takes you a couple of minutes to do it