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Originally Posted by lindyhppr
Just to make this explicit - the community wasn't shut down as a unit through guilt by association. There is evidence directly from members of the community and from data gathered on the platform that links these accounts together. Every account in the community was linked via irrefutable evidence.
Curious about a few things:
1) You clearly seem to know players very well (down to play style) but claim not to know their screen names.
2) You're mentioning something about transfers and funds passing between accounts but having no financial ties to them.
3) You say you play different stakes but seem to be very familiar with the player that was colluded against playing 25/50+.
4) Also, you said you had 25K seized - if you're playing very different stakes (implying you play lower stakes) as you claim, why do you have $25K on the site?
As one poster pointed out, I am unapologetic about security and keeping games safe. If you knew what I know about other Chinese sites, you would never play on them. The number of players that have been cheated, scammed, colluded against (not to mention bots) would shock you.
I do want to apologize for the poor communication - Poker King was not set up to handle communication directly with players outside of China. That responsibility was explicitly given to agents who the company signed up to promote the overseas players. No excuses though. We signed up the agents and if they failed to deliver then we failed.
This thread is turning into a psuedo appeals discussion which it was never meant to be. I have faith that by doing the right thing, the success of the site will take care of itself. Having a safe, secure place to play with an extremely soft player pool is a privilege, not a right. If you disagree with our practices, you are more than welcome to play elsewhere.
Moving forward, I'll give general updates but will no longer address individual accounts.
1) I wouldn’t say I know the players well, I know 3 of them mostly from live poker, which I play infrequently and through mutual friends who have played with those people more regularly in the past (some of which have been streamed and I’ve watched). I certainly wouldn’t claim to know their stylistic tendencies, but I’m aware those 3 are good tough players.
Why would I have any interest in knowing their screen names when they all play higher stakes than me? I didn’t even know 2 of them played on the site until recently, I don’t speak to any of them aside from live poker run-ins.
2) I’m aware the person who manages my funds is an acquaintance of those aforementioned players. I’m not sure how fund management on the site works, but it’s a reasonable assumption that this person would transfer profits to other accounts if people are short of funds on the site as I am told there is a fee for cashing out.
Yes I repeat I have no financial ties to those players. I’m not staked by them, don’t have action in them and haven’t swapped action with them or anything similar.
3) Yes I play lower. My volume for the last couple of months has been almost exclusively at 10/20/40, whereas as far as I know the others play 25/50/100 and above. Initially for a period in Jan I played mostly 25/50/100, but found the swings a bit stressful. I know very little about the recreational guy other than a brief mention from a friend who players higher basically saying that there was a guy that never folds pre, playing big and was losing a lot. If that’s me knowing a lot about him then ok, I do.
4) Sure I had £25k over 3 accounts, I’d been running decent and was going to cash some out, until this. It’s not that outrageous to have ~7-8BI on each account though
It seems clear my account has somehow been linked to the others through some sort of account transfer link as I’ve mentioned it’s literally impossible for it to be anything to do with my play or personal actions playing on the site. I’m not sure how you can tell me that’s not being labelled guilty by association.