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07-23-2009 , 10:19 AM
He would have had a better shot if asked for a million imho.
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07-23-2009 , 10:31 AM
Basically, this person seems to epitomize all that that is skewed in the public's view and understanding of poker.
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07-23-2009 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Rupert
embarrassing to watch and probs busto

would be interested if they would be interested in an online kid who actually brings graphs/HEM stats etc. also he probably should have mentioned it's tax free
I was thinking this as I watched the show last night, but then it occurred to me that it probably wouldn't be tax free for the investor. I'm no expert on tax law but I'd assume that this would be treated just like any other form of income. I know it would be tax free for JJ but the moment he ships any investor a % wouldn't it just be treated as a return on an investment and be subject to any appropriate taxes?
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07-23-2009 , 12:33 PM
Lol at $400 odd k coming from 1 tourney

What next Jamie gold saying hes the best as hes won over $12 mill
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07-23-2009 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Lionel Hutz
He would have had a better shot if asked for a million imho.

Very unlikely imho
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07-23-2009 , 02:27 PM
Hopefully this link will work...
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07-23-2009 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by nurabsal
He boasted of his $500k winnings since Nov 06.
What he didn't mention was that came from one second place (in Nov 06) for $450k and then some other cashes - which of course were paid for with that large winning cash.

There's too many people claiming winnings and profits are the same thing.

He claimed he paid off his mortgage and bought a holiday home. If was really that confident in his ability, he wouldn't need a backer.

Reading between the lines:

I had a lucky win. My wife made me pay off the house and buy a holiday home before I lose it all. Now I've got no liquid and my wife will divorce me if I lose any more. Can I lose yours instead?
lol oh so true
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07-23-2009 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Green_29
Gotta say Im really really disappointed with the dragons here, I know that 99% of people just do not understand poker in the slightest, but I thought these guys would. Nope, still think it's pure, unskilled gambling just like everybody else does. Like there is the tiniest difference between playing poker and doing what those guys do. Yet they turn around and say "we take calculated risks, poker is just gambling". I dont know, why is poker so hard to understand, even for professional businessmen?
They weren't saying that poker was gambling, they were saying that the investment was a gamble because the chance of a decent return is quite slim given the inherent luck factor in poker.

Does anyone know if Bannatyne's a decent player? Any tourney/cash game record?
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07-23-2009 , 05:39 PM
I can't watch this programme at all - its just so cringeworthy in general. I did watch the clip in the OP though and it has to be up there with the most LOL.
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07-23-2009 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bonified
Not really, in this case. I don't know if you watched the clip but JJ was projecting an ROI of 300%. If you really had an ROI of 300% in those tournaments, you'd literally only need about £1000 to start off playing £30 freezeouts and you'd build up a stake in no time. That's if you had a 300% ROI, which nobody does, least of all JJ.
I was prepared to give this guy a chance, but this is where he showed how much of a clueless poker player he really was. His statement was that basically - you invest 65k in me and if I make 250k over 33 tourneys that gives us a 250% ROI.

As soon as it was obvious he doesnt understand what ROI is or how it should be calculated you knew he was a gambler.
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07-23-2009 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AnfieldRoad
Not available in your area
this.... [ ] land of the free
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07-23-2009 , 06:27 PM
Actually it's not the US's fault, these most likely aren't available anywhere outside the UK because of TV licensing laws. And don't start me off on them, seriously.
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07-23-2009 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by nurabsal
Hopefully this link will work...
It does, thanks
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07-23-2009 , 08:03 PM
Somebody needs to step their game up!

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/sear...ncan+bannatyne
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07-23-2009 , 08:58 PM
Entertaining. I am surprised there isn't a US knockoff version of this show yet.

My favorite question was, "what was with the glasses?"
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07-23-2009 , 11:09 PM
ROFL just watched this. What a complete sadcase is all i can say.

Obv busto

Id just like to know where he intended to get 33 $2k tourneys to play that are 'major' tournaments. Only way he could make big money in a 2k tourney would be if he luckboxed a WSOP event. People like this drive me crazy.

If you were in the state of mind that he is and believed that you were great. You would set aside a lot more than 20k to continue playing.

Crawl back into your hole you English ****

End rant

Edit more. Where the hell is he going to play a tournament with 1 million pounds prize for first place at a 2k buyin. Not only is he a bad player who luckboxed one big tourney. He is also a liar.

Last edited by ohhigotdakingers; 07-23-2009 at 11:17 PM.
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07-23-2009 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bulletproof Monk
My record is 1.5 cashes in 5 major tournaments (30%) I have played, which stands up pretty well.

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Originally Posted by Bulletproof Monk
wat

Pretty much sums it up.
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07-24-2009 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by nurabsal
He boasted of his $500k winnings since Nov 06.
What he didn't mention was that came from one second place (in Nov 06) for $450k and then some other cashes - which of course were paid for with that large winning cash.

There's too many people claiming winnings and profits are the same thing.

He claimed he paid off his mortgage and bought a holiday home. If was really that confident in his ability, he wouldn't need a backer.

Reading between the lines:

I had a lucky win. My wife made me pay off the house and buy a holiday home before I lose it all. Now I've got no liquid and my wife will divorce me if I lose any more. Can I lose yours instead?
LOL sooooo exactly this.
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07-24-2009 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Flintoff
Haha. I love this show.

It just proves that you can't convince non-players that we aren't gambling.
It's amazing how many poker players think poker isn't gambling. Gambling with an edge is still gambling.
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07-24-2009 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by shaniac
Entertaining. I am surprised there isn't a US knockoff version of this show yet.
There is. The Shark Tank.
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07-24-2009 , 06:14 AM
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Crawl back into your hole you English ****
Dont know why you have to specify the English part?
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07-24-2009 , 07:18 AM
total donk who doesn't even play online.

lolat wanting to reduce variance and then not playing online where he can play tons of mtts per day all for less than $200 each
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07-24-2009 , 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ohhigotdakingers
ROFL just watched this. What a complete sadcase is all i can say.

Obv busto

Id just like to know where he intended to get 33 $2k tourneys to play that are 'major' tournaments. Only way he could make big money in a 2k tourney would be if he luckboxed a WSOP event. People like this drive me crazy.

If you were in the state of mind that he is and believed that you were great. You would set aside a lot more than 20k to continue playing.

Crawl back into your hole you English ****

End rant

Edit more. Where the hell is he going to play a tournament with 1 million pounds prize for first place at a 2k buyin. Not only is he a bad player who luckboxed one big tourney. He is also a liar.
JJ might be a bit of a chancer, and I have to admit I cringed when he showed up in sunglasses and sat shuffling cards, but hes a very amiable guy and an above avg player who doesnt deserve this kind of internet hard guy abuse from total strangers. Especially not ones who see "£65,000 stake" in the title, hear that he wants to play 33 tournaments, and then put those two complex puzzle pieces together with dollars being equal to sterling and all of his planned tournament buyins being identical. Since you seem to be having some difficulty, let me give you a helping hand - 33 x $2k does not equal £65k, and some tournaments have significantly higher buyins than others. You're welcome.

Before you go on your next randomly vicious rant, it could be an idea to master reading and counting, since currently they seem to be giving you some trouble.
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07-24-2009 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by raconteur
JJ might be a bit of a chancer, and I have to admit I cringed when he showed up in sunglasses and sat shuffling cards, but hes a very amiable guy and an above avg player who doesnt deserve this kind of internet hard guy abuse from total strangers. Especially not ones who see "£65,000 stake" in the title, hear that he wants to play 33 tournaments, and then put those two complex puzzle pieces together with dollars being equal to sterling and all of his planned tournament buyins being identical. Since you seem to be having some difficulty, let me give you a helping hand - 33 x $2k does not equal £65k, and some tournaments have significantly higher buyins than others. You're welcome.

Before you go on your next randomly vicious rant, it could be an idea to master reading and counting, since currently they seem to be giving you some trouble.
I think what people mostly find amusing is that a player where 90% of his lifetime tourney profits is from one big score is promising 250% ROI over 30 tourneys. Not the glasses. Not his personality.
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07-24-2009 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Freudian
I think what people mostly find amusing is that a player where 90% of his lifetime tourney profits is from one big score is promising 250% ROI over 30 tourneys. Not the glasses. Not his personality.
agreed, which is why i didnt respond to someone whose tone was one of amusement or friendly mockery, because i can see where they'd be coming from.
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