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Poker and Baseball hitters variance similair? Poker and Baseball hitters variance similair?

04-01-2011 , 01:51 PM
so got some food for thought for you. obviously you can play every hand as perfect as you can, and run into bad variance, but what about hitters in baseball? does this compare? if so what is worse variance or "bad luck"? a hitter can do everything right and hit the ball hard and have nothing to show for...and still be hitting. .000, but hit the ball harder than someone battin 1000, with infield hits...is this comparable to fish with a stack of 2k at 2/5, and a seasoned pro reaching into his pocket for a third rebuy?
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04-01-2011 , 02:09 PM
uh yeah


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well no cuz like, its all about sample size and ability
poker isnt baseball, poker is poker, baseball is besbol
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04-01-2011 , 02:13 PM
im making comparisons. i understand they arent the same, but a hitter can go into a slump, and start forcing things..and end up doing things he normally doesn't do, basically getting into bad habits, because he is forcing things, b/c his number arent there. same in poker aka tilt
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04-01-2011 , 02:19 PM
Yes it is comparable. Also you can compare playing a tournament to like playing a baseball game, or being the manager of the game. I mean its all comparable but the two are separate games. Using your imagination and looking at the psychological similarities between the two games is fun and can be productive.
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04-01-2011 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by koop149
Yes it is comparable. Also you can compare playing a tournament to like playing a baseball game, or being the manager of the game. I mean its all comparable but the two are separate games. Using your imagination and looking at the psychological similarities between the two games is fun and can be productive.
yeah thats how it started...watching the phillies game, and everyone obv starts with .000 avg for the season..and ive seen a few guys hit bombs each at bat and hve nothing 2 show for.
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04-01-2011 , 04:46 PM
It's very similar. That's why baseball statisticians are gathering more than the traditional box score data and analyzing a plethora of "sabermetrics". Things like where the ball is hit and whether it was a line drive, grounder, or fly ball. Much like the way we try to find the reasons why we are sucking so bad at poker or we try to find things that we can blame on luck. ("I can't win with this distribution of cards I've been getting dealt")
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04-01-2011 , 04:50 PM
There are alot of similarities. And ironically, they are my 2 favourite games.
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04-01-2011 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Carnivore
There are alot of similarities. And ironically, they are my 2 favourite games.

+1, mine too
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04-01-2011 , 05:03 PM
Magic the gathering and poker are similar too
poker is also similar to any other sport in the world
other sports are also similar to other sports
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04-01-2011 , 05:07 PM
poker might be similar to baseball

but in reality, the closest comparison to poker is just a pipe
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04-01-2011 , 05:16 PM
I played professional baseball for 7 years, mostly AA and 2 more years in independent. I can relate the suckouts you receive on the table to the bad beats you receive by the umpires. You can do everything right, make a perfect pitch and yet get the wrong call. There is just nothing you can do but go on to the next batter.
Like a seasoned professional at the tables and on the field, there is always the next hand or the next batter. Yet it often puts some guys on tilt, gets in their head, and they start to do things differently.

Another note in poker, anyone can beat anyone on every given day, and this is true in baseball to, but they have to be around the same skill level.
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04-01-2011 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Feel my Power
Magic the gathering and poker are similar too
poker is also similar to any other sport in the world
other sports are also similar to other sports
nothing like baseball tho, u can do exactly what ur supposed to do and be considered garbage with a .150 batting average, but most of your outs were shots and seeds.
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04-01-2011 , 05:42 PM
Daniel Kimberg perhaps sums the entire skill vs luck debate up best in a 2007 Cardplayer article.

Kimberg compares poker and baseball. In both games generally the more skilled competitor will emerge victorious on any given day, but it is hardly a certainty. However in both poker and baseball time sorts matters out. One hundred and sixty-two MLB games tend to separate the best teams from the worst, just as six months of poker separates the consistent winners from consistent losers (Kimber). A single hand of poker, like a single game of baseball, can be greatly influenced by the element of luck, however as more hands are dealt and more games are played skill clearly becomes of the utmost importance.

Spoiler:
An excerpt from Poker : A Game of Skill -- Not Luck
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04-01-2011 , 05:47 PM
Look into the BABIP statistic, it tries to quantify how lucky a hitter has been over a certain season.
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04-01-2011 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Carnivore
There are alot of similarities. And ironically, they are my 2 favourite games.
Oh man, this might be the worst use of 'ironically' I have ever seen.
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04-01-2011 , 05:51 PM
u can compare poker to like anything, dumb thread
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04-01-2011 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by clutchbeastmaster
u can compare poker to like anything, dumb thread
u obv have no idea about baseball, nor did u prob ever play.
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04-01-2011 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SomeDork
Oh man, this might be the worst use of 'ironically' I have ever seen.
It's like rain on your wedding day.
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04-01-2011 , 07:58 PM
Almost everything has variance and luck to an extent.
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04-01-2011 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CoronaAndLime
u obv have no idea about baseball, nor did u prob ever play.
u can compare poker to like anything, dumb thread
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04-01-2011 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jabba021
Almost everything has variance and luck to an extent.
this
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04-01-2011 , 08:53 PM
not if u think about it, give an example than
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04-01-2011 , 08:57 PM
Calm down, trolls.

This comparison is valid and interesting IMO and this thread is far better than most of the nonsense in this forum.
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04-01-2011 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pineapple888
Calm down, trolls.

This comparison is valid and interesting IMO and this thread is far better than most of the nonsense in this forum.
thanks sir, i knew some people would like it
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04-02-2011 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CoronaAndLime
not if u think about it, give an example than
Poker is like crossing the road because one day i might get hit by a car but most days i dont.
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