I think that the records from 200 years ago are exponentially more accurate than those from 2000 years ago. It's also just logically easier to believe that a person became president, cause we see stuff like that happen all the time, than that a person came back from the dead, which nobody lately has seen happen. I would also cite the fact that nobody has any belief that someone other than George Washington was the first president of the US, whereas Jesus being resurrected seems to be highly debated.

Internet forum, the only place on earth where you can call 5+ billion people stupid and get away with that. That said, I do think that everyone who claims to have definite answer to these issues is at least delusional, including hardcore atheists. That said, christian god tilts me soo hard and f him on the off chance that he is real.

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LOL @ everyone who thinks that avg intelligence here is higher than avg intelligence of general population.

LOL @ everyone who uses IQ as synonymum to intelligence

LOL @ ICMoney

seriously dude, its not like you are going to prove anything/change anybody's mind or accomplish anything at all.

and
LOL @ comparing ****ING resurrection and proving Washington was the first president.

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Well the Dead Sea scrolls discovered 50 years ago show the records of today are almost 100% exact copy of copies of what we had 2,000 years ago.

Both are historical events - I was saying you can't prove either "scientifically."

I would guess 2p2ers have a higher IQ than the main population.

HU4rolls Krax?

On what basis?

its HU4rollz and I suck at poker:P

I don't think the concept of 'evidence' changes whether we are talking about history or science. I think the bible is an acceptable source for evidence. However, it is not enough to convince me about its contents (it may be enough to convince you). For me, I need more sources especially given the supernatural nature of what it is trying to prove. It works in a similar way for other supernatural events. If someone tells me they saw a ghost and they have friends to corroborate it, it would be evidence for the existence of ghosts and I would be swayed in some amount in my belief about ghosts. However, I would need more evidence before I can fully believe it.

As for your question, given the different factors involved such as number of different sources, the difficulty in executing a conspiracy on such a scale and most importantly the physical plausibility of the event (absence of the supernatural), I am firm in my belief that George Washington was the first president.

add agnostic to the list

There may be no God, but with the amount of bad luck I get, there sure as hell is a Satan

No. So playing a game with money = no morals? Sorry, complete logic fail. That's all.

Can you please cite some non-Biblical historical sources for the resurrection?

lol I like this quote

christ, did some people vote 4 or 5 times? I had no idea that theyre were that many atheists here lol

I'm at work now. I'll do it in the next week.

so 75% of nvgers are atheists... hmmmm

I actually work for a evangelical church and play poker. I'm fairly young (maybe not in 2+2), and educated. There is reason/logic to believe up to a certain point, but part of faith is saying, "I don't understand this, but I understand there is something bigger than me."

Their extortion line is better than the Mafia's:

Give us your money or go to hell.

For suckers, its the worst.

There are plenty of extremely intelligent people who are religious. Many people manage to compartmentalize their religious beliefs in order to ensure no irrational methods of thinking contaminate the other aspects of their lives. From an atheist perspective religious belief is stupid, but everyone has an opinion on some subject that most would consider irrational or unintelligent. Its similar to people winning millions at poker because they are smart and they play the game in a rational manner, then they go play an unbeatable game like craps and lose it all by ignoring math and common sense. Just because you have a stupid idea does not mean you are an unintelligent person. How many atheists have drinking and drug problems? Just as many as religious folks I would imagine, and destroying your life and/or body is a pretty ******ed thing to do, more so than believing in something that doesn't exist imo.

I also agree with many that the results of this poll will only go to show that the generally younger crowd of internet users are more inclined to be atheists or agnostics. That being said I am an atheist.

You are right
I guess the only explanation is something supernatural

You are thinking irrational for the benefit of your own belief, if something similar would happen in this time you will not jump to a supernatural conclusion. You will not take the same evidence as you do for Jesus' resurrection.

I have been making a living thru school by playing poker (only around 2k amonth but it pays for everything i need). I have never believed in any higher power and always thought it was silly to be honest. No offense intended.

Also im 23 now for the age debate goin on.

Don't address that question to Christ. He doesn't ever come to 2p2 on account of there being so many atheists. He mostly hangs out over at pocket5's.

no, i consider myself agnostic. i just grew up in the midwest, went to catholic school as a kid, and never seen so many openly atheist/agnostic ppl before so was a bit shocking that they seemed to outnumber the ppl who believed in a higher power.

so aren't atheists really just people who are agnostic at heart, but feel the need to act like they are smarter than everyone and talk down to people saying there is no possible way that there can be a god? even though they don't know for a fact whether or not there can or can't be a god?

why can't atheists just simply say they don't know if there is or isn't a god? its almost like atheism is a religion itself.

^ I'm not trying to be rude either. It's just a question/opinion and the vibe i get from most atheists ive talked to in real life and from this thread.

Surprised there's so many non-atheists to be honest. Still some work to do when it comes to civilising people.

I just don't think about it, I don't even know if I'm more atheist or religious.

Mehh I can see this applying to some people who call themselves atheists but its definitely the minority. H.P. Lovecraft said, "In theory I'm an agnostic, but pending the appearance of radical evidence I must be classed, practically and provisionally, as an atheist."

I think most atheists today would relate/be in agreement with this statement.

For me it's all about probability. When examining your belief in something you assign probabilities on the likeliness of it being true. Do I believe Bigfoot exists? No, I think it's 99.9 percent likely that it doesn’t. Do I then say I'm agnostic in regards to the existence of Bigfoot? Nah, I'll say without any significant positive evidence for the existence BF, I can say with firm confidence that, no, I don't believe in BF, it doesn't exist, etc.

I do the same with the following questions. Is there life after death? Is there a god or gods? I assign a very high probability that there isn't (not 100%, but like 99.9) and say nah probably not or nope they don't. Is religion man made, yeah it seems very probable that it is, etc.