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10-21-2015 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
Lemme guess, u use a hud but not a script?
as long as they dont take away my ability to seat script mtt's,sngs,sattys i wont mind
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11-18-2015 , 05:04 PM
so, everyone seems to be using some sort of seating script at 600nl+ on party...? Arent they suppose to be banned? or was the hidden player identities until 1st hand played suppose to stop scripting? New to the site, unsure how it was before
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11-18-2015 , 06:05 PM
Just because the starter of this thread wrote the word ban in the topic, doesn't mean it happened.

Because it didn't.
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11-28-2015 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
I lolled.

"HUDs bring more entertainment to your sessions".
I agree.
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01-21-2016 , 06:11 AM
Banned already?
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01-21-2016 , 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by coach999
Banned already?
Why would they have been? Party have never said they wil ban HUDs.
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01-21-2016 , 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by coach999
Banned already?
There have been some worrying threads in the IP forum posted by players that have been banned for using "AI software" that Party won't name, or even describe, but it seems that seating scripts may be involved. It's a bad time to be a Party reg if you win >5bb/100, as it seems big winners are randomly having their accounts closed, and they aren't even given the chance to make a video of themselves to prove they are human and not using 'illegal' tools.
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01-21-2016 , 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
There have been some worrying threads in the IP forum posted by players that have been banned for using "AI software" that Party won't name, or even describe, but it seems that seating scripts may be involved. It's a bad time to be a Party reg if you win >5bb/100, as it seems big winners are randomly having their accounts closed, and they aren't even given the chance to make a video of themselves to prove they are human and not using 'illegal' tools.
FWIW, seating scripts are now banned at Party.
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01-21-2016 , 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
FWIW, seating scripts are now banned at Party.
Ah, thanks for the confirmation. Some of the banned players (including a Poker Strat coach) were rumoured to be using scripts before the ban was confirmed. I have no idea if/when they stopped when the new rules were quietly brought in. It's pretty ridiculous that Party apparently doesn't have a list of prohibited software on its website. For rules to work effectively, they need to be transparent about what is and what isn't legal.
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01-21-2016 , 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
Lemme guess, u use a hud but not a script?
lol... poker players are some of the most selfish people you will ever find... huds are terrible for the games and incredibly unfair for recreational players who already have an uphill battle.
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01-21-2016 , 07:28 AM
People have been getting warned that if they keep using a script, they will get banned.
Yet many people are still clearly using one, at the moment.
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01-21-2016 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Ah, thanks for the confirmation. Some of the banned players (including a Poker Strat coach) were rumoured to be using scripts before the ban was confirmed. I have no idea if/when they stopped when the new rules were quietly brought in. It's pretty ridiculous that Party apparently doesn't have a list of prohibited software on its website. For rules to work effectively, they need to be transparent about what is and what isn't legal.
It's as though Amaya are paying off all of their potential competitors to be as unprofessional and off-putting as possible.

Regarding the topic, in theory I'm for banning scripts but mainly because they're an expensive investment for fun players (with the lack of fish now the table will still fill up almost immediately when a fish sits, just have to keep half an eye on the lobby) where as a basic HM2/PT4 HUD is reasonably priced for anyone who wants to not completely suck at the game. This isn't exclusive to poker either. Take Hearthstone for example, a very popular card game that has a huge p2w element in order to create an even playing field. A $100 HUD is actually cheaper than many other games or sports' investments. Another way of looking at it is if the fun player were to drive to their local casino every couple weeks, petrol money would soon overtake the cost of a HUD anyway.
Besides as I've said before in HUD threads, I never really look at my HUD vs the fish, population reads are far more accurate than the 25 hands I've got on them in my database.
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01-21-2016 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by nickdcfc
http://uk.pokernews.com/news/2015/10...ield-19256.htm

Somewhat inevitable but clearly a land grab

Sent from my Nexus 10 using 2+2 Forums

Ugg, so lame. I hate this anti-technology luddite crap. Poker is really showing that it will never measure up to the financifl market that embrace technology and cybernetics/mathematics.

Everything is cheating to uneducated morons. Bots...cheating.....HUDs cheating....Multiple accounts.....cheating.......they will soon require a Facebook account and real name, backed and necessitated by identification cards/photographs. Better yet why don't they just force us to use our driver's license/passport as our avatar.

The awful thing is that you know that some clueless greedy executive will think that Driver's license idea is a fantastic opportunity for complete honesty and integrity in the game.

Welcome to Groupthink-1984. Glad I'm not an online professional that depends on poker in a legitimate way. All the real opportunities are dead and gone. Everything that the financial markets use freely is viewed as heresy in online poker.

Lame.
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01-21-2016 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Savant
Ugg, so lame. I hate this anti-technology luddite crap. Poker is really showing that it will never measure up to the financifl market that embrace technology and cybernetics/mathematics.

Everything is cheating to uneducated morons. Bots...cheating.....HUDs cheating....Multiple accounts.....cheating.......they will soon require a Facebook account and real name, backed and necessitated by identification cards/photographs. Better yet why don't they just force us to use our driver's license/passport as our avatar.

The awful thing is that you know that some clueless greedy executive will think that Driver's license idea is a fantastic opportunity for complete honesty and integrity in the game.

Welcome to Groupthink-1984. Glad I'm not an online professional that depends on poker in a legitimate way. All the real opportunities are dead and gone. Everything that the financial markets use freely is viewed as heresy in online poker.

Lame.
Your post is lame. The financial market is ripe with technologies that give people an unfair advantage. Hardly something we should strive to be imitating.
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01-21-2016 , 09:43 AM
The funny thing is that I'm a software engineer and we can and will ALWAYS get around prevention loopholes. Its how and why the Internet was largely created in the first place. There is always a way.

Luckily just because there is a WAY, doesn't mean there is a WILL as the online games are too few and tiny that it makes it practically worthless to take seriously. And superuser/confidence games/pkersites going bankrupt taking your money with them just subtract any equity that is left. Being a software engineer doesn't help much when you are being directly cheated and screwed.

Well except if you can hack and control the random number generator.

I know.....I'll solve the Riemann Hypothesis and control ALL prime number factoring algorithms....and RULE THE WORLD!!! (Dan Dan Dannnnnnnn......!!!)
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01-21-2016 , 09:48 AM
So basically, you have a personal incentive to back up software(lol).

I'm all for HUDS, but I think they should be integrated into the sites software, or banned entirely. This way no one has an unfair advantage.
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01-21-2016 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Gmancrief
Your post is lame. The financial market is ripe with technologies that give people an unfair advantage. Hardly something we should strive to be imitating.
Was going to be rude, but what's the point of judging you because you're probably just mad that you can't program very well. I happen to like unfair advantages. And I use them all the time and enjoy doing so. Having a photographic memory is a ridiculously unfair advantage. Do you judge Stu Ungar or Bobby Fischer for having that advantage.

You judge "advantages" subjectively. I find that pointless...and very boring.
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01-21-2016 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Savant
Was going to be rude, but what's the point of judging you because you're probably just mad that you can't program very well. I happen to like unfair advantages. And I use them all the time and enjoy doing so. Having a photographic memory is a ridiculously unfair advantage. Do you judge Stu Ungar or Bobby Fischer for having that advantage.

You judge "advantages" subjectively. I find that pointless...and very boring.
Yes, I'm livid that I don't know how to program. How do I live with myself?
Have you ever heard of morals?

This will be my last post to you. Clearly too much time in front of a computer typing lines of digits has removed you from the real world.
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01-21-2016 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Gmancrief
Yes, I'm livid that I don't know how to program. How do I live with myself?
Have you ever heard of morals?

This will be my last post to you. Clearly too much time in front of a computer typing lines of digits has removed you from the real world.
Spending time obsessing about code was what I DID......15 years ago. I did like all people who can code do, and made a ****load doing it. Then I spent the next period realizing that looking and feeling good was important , so I got in great shape. Women tend to go bat**** crazy for savants, who are in great shape, that have every page of the Kamasutra and Marquis De Sade's writings memorized.

Let's just say that I've f****** more 18-40 year olds than your Facebook page will ever have, lol. Even some 17 yr olds in Alabama, where its legal, lol, and a really hot 60 year old in California with size Gs.

Man phenylpiracetam. Glad Russia made it rampant and available. Cheap, legal, and 25 times better than cocaine.

Of morals....I have none ;-)

Last edited by Diablo Savant; 01-21-2016 at 10:12 AM.
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01-21-2016 , 10:45 AM
In my defense the 60 year old looked almost exactly like Deauxma. All you have to do is google her, and well....lol.
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01-21-2016 , 11:24 AM
Sounds lonely
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01-21-2016 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by a_r_K
lol... poker players are some of the most selfish people you will ever find... huds are terrible for the games and incredibly unfair for recreational players who already have an uphill battle.
LOL

Recreationals will lose almost the same with or without HUD , regs will have a hard time beating other regs thats the only point

Yeah Poker players are selfish , and the bankers and wall street guys who sodomize millions of americans are very generous people

Alderson who made USA like Northkorea when it comes to Poker raping millions or poker players is prolly a very nice guy also


U clearly dont know many poker players
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01-21-2016 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Savant
Ugg, so lame. I hate this anti-technology luddite crap. Poker is really showing that it will never measure up to the financifl market that embrace technology and cybernetics/mathematics.

Everything is cheating to uneducated morons. Bots...cheating.....HUDs cheating....Multiple accounts.....cheating.......they will soon require a Facebook account and real name, backed and necessitated by identification cards/photographs. Better yet why don't they just force us to use our driver's license/passport as our avatar.

The awful thing is that you know that some clueless greedy executive will think that Driver's license idea is a fantastic opportunity for complete honesty and integrity in the game.

Welcome to Groupthink-1984. Glad I'm not an online professional that depends on poker in a legitimate way. All the real opportunities are dead and gone. Everything that the financial markets use freely is viewed as heresy in online poker.

Lame.
The group think on 2p2 has always been for huds. Not the other way.
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01-21-2016 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TR7isBetterThanU
It's as though Amaya are paying off all of their potential competitors to be as unprofessional and off-putting as possible.

Regarding the topic, in theory I'm for banning scripts but mainly because they're an expensive investment for fun players (with the lack of fish now the table will still fill up almost immediately when a fish sits, just have to keep half an eye on the lobby) where as a basic HM2/PT4 HUD is reasonably priced for anyone who wants to not completely suck at the game. This isn't exclusive to poker either. Take Hearthstone for example, a very popular card game that has a huge p2w element in order to create an even playing field. A $100 HUD is actually cheaper than many other games or sports' investments. Another way of looking at it is if the fun player were to drive to their local casino every couple weeks, petrol money would soon overtake the cost of a HUD anyway.
Besides as I've said before in HUD threads, I never really look at my HUD vs the fish, population reads are far more accurate than the 25 hands I've got on them in my database.
Bolded isn't really true, you can't see who's on a table until you've played a hand.
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01-21-2016 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Ah, thanks for the confirmation. Some of the banned players (including a Poker Strat coach) were rumoured to be using scripts before the ban was confirmed. I have no idea if/when they stopped when the new rules were quietly brought in. It's pretty ridiculous that Party apparently doesn't have a list of prohibited software on its website. For rules to work effectively, they need to be transparent about what is and what isn't legal.
Lol, 'rumoured'. Basically everyone uses script on midstakes and literally everyone on party (at least before the ban). Mine works on stars, party and ipoker and i'm sure there's people out there with scripts that works both better and on more sites.

/your average bumhunter
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