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10-14-2014 , 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Penders
What does Amaya has to do with Goalgaming Ltd?

Goalgaming Ltd, who owned 3-4 poker sites, including Goalwin and Pokermambo, has nothing to do with Amaya besides using their platform for poker. Amaya never held the funds, Goalgaming did.

Some of you guys seriously need to understand how networks, licenses, cashiers and so on works, before blaming the network for the failure of a skin. It has happened on every single poker network in the world and it's not something you as a network can do anything about. They could kick them out, wouldn't help anyone, they can let them stay and see if it solves itself which is always unlikely, but they should never be liable to cover bankrolls of partners that goes bankrupt. That's what we have licensees such as the incompetent LGA and Curacao for. They are the ones who should cover the bankrolls of the players, since they did not do their job properly.
I must disagree to this part. If you give a shady skin a platform to move on, then you are very well guilty.

Despite of this, a network operator could do as well some kind of prove of the finances, especially when licence providers are not willing to do so.
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10-14-2014 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Barcelona World
I must disagree to this part. If you give a shady skin a platform to move on, then you are very well guilty.

Despite of this, a network operator could do as well some kind of prove of the finances, especially when licence providers are not willing to do so.
And i must disagree with you.

Goalgaming Ltd and many other companies had more products than poker, for example casino and sports betting. So you expect a POKER network to ask for the balances of all players, including those who play these other products and then for financial papers, which they have no right to see as they are not a licensee, and then say "hey you are missing €50,000, we will shut you off"?

Or do you expect them to only get to know the poker balances and show they can cover those, not caring about how much extra money there should be in the company to cover for all other players? Doing this will lead to the same amount of fraud as there is now.

There is a reason why gaming sites have licenses, the reason is that we should be able to trust that they do their job and check the sites they license, but they don't care as long as they get their yearly licensing fee and 1-2% gaming fee.

The whole issue here falls back on the licensees, who over and over again show their incompetence towards checking player balances against financial statements. A poker network shouldn't have to check if third-party partners has their financials in place to pay everyone, they have other tasks. They should be able to rely on a licensee doing their job.
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10-14-2014 , 11:22 AM
Licensee = poker site which holds a licence and of course a shady poker site does not check player balances against financial statements.
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10-14-2014 , 03:33 PM
pm skype conference if there is one.
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10-21-2014 , 01:04 PM
Hi:
I'm in the same situation, I have a pending cashout from 20 November 6300 €, I wrote to the lga but still have not answered
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10-29-2014 , 09:31 PM
any updates on this situation? I've had a cashout pending since August 2013

is the poker community just going to let this happen with another poker site?

what can we do to come together and try and get our money back?
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10-30-2014 , 04:44 PM
Same situation here, pending 7k since august 2013.
****in bs.
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11-09-2014 , 01:04 PM
bump, have 8k stuck there. Thanks Amaya
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11-09-2014 , 01:43 PM
How can a publicly traded company back a skin and just let that skin rob everyone? Has anyone contacted a lawyer to sue someone?
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11-10-2014 , 03:09 PM
Maybe a mod could change the title to "Ongame skin Goalwin robbed it's players" or something like that. Since they took their website down i think its no longer just an "issue" but full-on theft
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11-17-2014 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by C Lovett
Maybe a mod could change the title to "Ongame skin Goalwin robbed it's players" or something like that. Since they took their website down i think its no longer just an "issue" but full-on theft
+1

They are thieves, they stole my money.
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11-20-2014 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by nydicil
+1

They are thieves, they stole my money.
+1
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11-21-2014 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bobafett411
I have him on skype but good luck getting a reply from him about this
Good luck with that!
He is just a lying scumbag he never gonna answer!
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12-10-2014 , 10:47 AM
Where are the money?
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12-30-2014 , 07:59 PM
something new? or are they officially that the money is gone?
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01-02-2015 , 07:07 PM
Happy new year

Still I have not received my money?!?!?!?
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01-03-2015 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DaySixNSeven
Happy new year

Still I have not received my money?!?!?!?
Why are you asking us..you should know.
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01-15-2015 , 12:39 AM
i forgot my goalwin acc already(1000€), but received mail today.....

Dear xxx,
we are going to send you the remaining funds from your account.

Can you please provide a valid Bank account on your name (IBAN and SWIFT/BIC) where we can send the payment?

Best regards
Goalgaming Support Team
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01-15-2015 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Ypsi
i forgot my goalwin acc already(1000€), but received mail today.....

Dear xxx,
we are going to send you the remaining funds from your account.

Can you please provide a valid Bank account on your name (IBAN and SWIFT/BIC) where we can send the payment?

Best regards
Goalgaming Support Team
Seriously?
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01-15-2015 , 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by bobafett411
Seriously?
yes
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01-15-2015 , 11:44 AM
And why a bank account to be referred?
Why not Skrill, Neteller, etc
But such as I have not received any email.
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01-16-2015 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by editke75
And why a bank account to be referred?
Why not Skrill, Neteller, etc
But such as I have not received any email.
lol, i dont ask ths questions after i waited for my money 1.5 years.
And i cant believe this, i received today 1056€
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01-16-2015 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ypsi
lol, i dont ask ths questions after i waited for my money 1.5 years.
And i cant believe this, i received today 1056€
I really have hard time believing this story. Please post some screens.
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01-17-2015 , 05:08 AM
I will not believe it
I wrote a lot of e-mail, which was returned because the recipient is unknown. But not even a year ago have been slow to respond to a letter either. (support@play2b.com, support@goalwin.eu, support@goalwin.com, support@goalwin.net, etc.).
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01-17-2015 , 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by stargrabber
I really have hard time believing this story. Please post some screens.
+1

or else you are trolling, is it funny for you?
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