Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > >

News, Views, and Gossip For poker news, views and gossip.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-14-2014, 07:36 AM   #426
Barcelona World
journeyman
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 232
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

Quote:
Originally Posted by Penders View Post
What does Amaya has to do with Goalgaming Ltd?

Goalgaming Ltd, who owned 3-4 poker sites, including Goalwin and Pokermambo, has nothing to do with Amaya besides using their platform for poker. Amaya never held the funds, Goalgaming did.

Some of you guys seriously need to understand how networks, licenses, cashiers and so on works, before blaming the network for the failure of a skin. It has happened on every single poker network in the world and it's not something you as a network can do anything about. They could kick them out, wouldn't help anyone, they can let them stay and see if it solves itself which is always unlikely, but they should never be liable to cover bankrolls of partners that goes bankrupt. That's what we have licensees such as the incompetent LGA and Curacao for. They are the ones who should cover the bankrolls of the players, since they did not do their job properly.
I must disagree to this part. If you give a shady skin a platform to move on, then you are very well guilty.

Despite of this, a network operator could do as well some kind of prove of the finances, especially when licence providers are not willing to do so.
Barcelona World is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2014, 09:31 AM   #427
Penders
centurion
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sweden
Posts: 109
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barcelona World View Post
I must disagree to this part. If you give a shady skin a platform to move on, then you are very well guilty.

Despite of this, a network operator could do as well some kind of prove of the finances, especially when licence providers are not willing to do so.
And i must disagree with you.

Goalgaming Ltd and many other companies had more products than poker, for example casino and sports betting. So you expect a POKER network to ask for the balances of all players, including those who play these other products and then for financial papers, which they have no right to see as they are not a licensee, and then say "hey you are missing €50,000, we will shut you off"?

Or do you expect them to only get to know the poker balances and show they can cover those, not caring about how much extra money there should be in the company to cover for all other players? Doing this will lead to the same amount of fraud as there is now.

There is a reason why gaming sites have licenses, the reason is that we should be able to trust that they do their job and check the sites they license, but they don't care as long as they get their yearly licensing fee and 1-2% gaming fee.

The whole issue here falls back on the licensees, who over and over again show their incompetence towards checking player balances against financial statements. A poker network shouldn't have to check if third-party partners has their financials in place to pay everyone, they have other tasks. They should be able to rely on a licensee doing their job.
Penders is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2014, 11:22 AM   #428
Barcelona World
journeyman
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 232
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

Licensee = poker site which holds a licence and of course a shady poker site does not check player balances against financial statements.
Barcelona World is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2014, 03:33 PM   #429
Flag
stranger
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 12
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

pm skype conference if there is one.
Flag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2014, 01:04 PM   #430
Tommy1000
stranger
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

Hi:
I'm in the same situation, I have a pending cashout from 20 November 6300 €, I wrote to the lga but still have not answered
Tommy1000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2014, 09:31 PM   #431
STRIKE2CALLED
journeyman
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 329
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

any updates on this situation? I've had a cashout pending since August 2013

is the poker community just going to let this happen with another poker site?

what can we do to come together and try and get our money back?
STRIKE2CALLED is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2014, 04:44 PM   #432
DaySixNSeven
enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 94
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

Same situation here, pending 7k since august 2013.
****in bs.
DaySixNSeven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2014, 01:04 PM   #433
C Lovett
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
C Lovett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,639
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

bump, have 8k stuck there. Thanks Amaya
C Lovett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2014, 01:43 PM   #434
ovie
centurion
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 173
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

How can a publicly traded company back a skin and just let that skin rob everyone? Has anyone contacted a lawyer to sue someone?
ovie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2014, 03:09 PM   #435
C Lovett
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
C Lovett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,639
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

Maybe a mod could change the title to "Ongame skin Goalwin robbed it's players" or something like that. Since they took their website down i think its no longer just an "issue" but full-on theft
C Lovett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2014, 10:03 AM   #436
nydicil
newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 49
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

Quote:
Originally Posted by C Lovett View Post
Maybe a mod could change the title to "Ongame skin Goalwin robbed it's players" or something like that. Since they took their website down i think its no longer just an "issue" but full-on theft
+1

They are thieves, they stole my money.
nydicil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2014, 01:49 PM   #437
DaySixNSeven
enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 94
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

Quote:
Originally Posted by nydicil View Post
+1

They are thieves, they stole my money.
+1
DaySixNSeven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2014, 09:45 PM   #438
Zanetti13
stranger
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 8
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobafett411 View Post
I have him on skype but good luck getting a reply from him about this
Good luck with that!
He is just a lying scumbag he never gonna answer!
Zanetti13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2014, 10:47 AM   #439
DaySixNSeven
enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 94
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

Where are the money?
DaySixNSeven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2014, 07:59 PM   #440
Zanetti13
stranger
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 8
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

something new? or are they officially that the money is gone?
Zanetti13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2015, 07:07 PM   #441
DaySixNSeven
enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 94
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

Happy new year

Still I have not received my money?!?!?!?
DaySixNSeven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2015, 03:02 AM   #442
BiggerBoots
adept
 
BiggerBoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 739
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaySixNSeven View Post
Happy new year

Still I have not received my money?!?!?!?
Why are you asking us..you should know.
BiggerBoots is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 12:39 AM   #443
Ypsi
centurion
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 109
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

i forgot my goalwin acc already(1000€), but received mail today.....

Dear xxx,
we are going to send you the remaining funds from your account.

Can you please provide a valid Bank account on your name (IBAN and SWIFT/BIC) where we can send the payment?

Best regards
Goalgaming Support Team
Ypsi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 12:46 AM   #444
bobafett411
centurion
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Glasgow, UK
Posts: 100
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ypsi View Post
i forgot my goalwin acc already(1000€), but received mail today.....

Dear xxx,
we are going to send you the remaining funds from your account.

Can you please provide a valid Bank account on your name (IBAN and SWIFT/BIC) where we can send the payment?

Best regards
Goalgaming Support Team
Seriously?
bobafett411 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 06:01 AM   #445
Ypsi
centurion
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 109
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobafett411 View Post
Seriously?
yes
Ypsi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 11:44 AM   #446
editke75
newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Hungary-Tiszaújváros- BAZ megye
Posts: 21
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

And why a bank account to be referred?
Why not Skrill, Neteller, etc
But such as I have not received any email.
editke75 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2015, 05:37 PM   #447
Ypsi
centurion
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 109
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

Quote:
Originally Posted by editke75 View Post
And why a bank account to be referred?
Why not Skrill, Neteller, etc
But such as I have not received any email.
lol, i dont ask ths questions after i waited for my money 1.5 years.
And i cant believe this, i received today 1056€
Ypsi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2015, 09:03 PM   #448
stargrabber
stranger
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 11
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ypsi View Post
lol, i dont ask ths questions after i waited for my money 1.5 years.
And i cant believe this, i received today 1056€
I really have hard time believing this story. Please post some screens.
stargrabber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2015, 05:08 AM   #449
editke75
newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Hungary-Tiszaújváros- BAZ megye
Posts: 21
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

I will not believe it
I wrote a lot of e-mail, which was returned because the recipient is unknown. But not even a year ago have been slow to respond to a letter either. (support@play2b.com, support@goalwin.eu, support@goalwin.com, support@goalwin.net, etc.).
editke75 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2015, 06:01 AM   #450
nydicil
newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 49
Re: ONGAME/Goalwin/PokerMambo Cashout Issues for a long time

Quote:
Originally Posted by stargrabber View Post
I really have hard time believing this story. Please post some screens.
+1

or else you are trolling, is it funny for you?
nydicil is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2008-2020, Two Plus Two Interactive