Surely this must have been recorded, if it ever took place. Show dem receipts papi!

I really don't know what his sense of "obsessiveness" is but I have every reason to believe that he trained extremely hard and with very good people. My point of view was that I had set up a situation in which the outcome was mostly in my hands; there wasn't much he could do. I simply felt that given the size advantage, my athleticism, my motivation/discipline and my quality of training, I could put myself in a good spot.

if instead you had both agreed to weigh in at 165, knowing what you know now, what do you think a fair line would have been?

Do you think you had the better game plan going in?

I heard you or someone in your camp say position over submission.
Which I think is really smart. Did you try to keep your fight plan as simple as possible?

Introspect do you wish you had negotiated a closer weight? (same as question above)

Why do you think High-Stakes poker players want to fight each other? You never hear two chess grandmasters deciding to throw down.

I probably should have been more clear about this. This was no-gi BJJ. 100% of my BJJ has been in no-gi for obvious reasons. It was a single 6 minute round. It was the 3rd match for both of us. Half of the round was on our feet trying to gain an advantage going to the ground. I ended up getting him to the ground (with me on top) and was able to advance to half guard. The rest of the round was me maintaining position. I won on points. I think if we had each started from each other's guard, he would've likely beaten me.

During regular BJJ class though, I submitted a 240 lb blue belt multiple times and generally held my own vs the beginner-medium blue belts.

Well yeah, but Mark Kerr was world class wrestler and quick googling says a purple belt in BJJ during ADCC, and Monson and Garcia were maybe less skilled than their opponents, but still BJJ black belts (or close to it back then).

Olivier had been training for 4 months, not even exclusively in BJJ, and his opponent had size advantage over him.

The only moment where I was unsure where I was at was during the leg lock/heel hook attempt. I knew that the natural impulse is to bend the wrong way, (essentially into the submission) so I was trying not to do that and look for a spot to remove my leg. I wasn't that comfortable though and thought there was a chance I could lose. This actually contributed to my getting tired faster than normal because my adrenaline dumped a bit after I got out of that position.

In terms of his triangles/arm bars, I never really felt in danger. The twins I train with fight at 125/135 but they walk around at around 140-145. They are 20 years old, have been training seriously for 5 years, are purple belts and are incredibly strong for their weight - especially in MMA-specific strength. Even though they are smaller than JC, I thought they would be likely stronger than him and obviously more technical/tougher. Triangles are their favorite move and 3-4 months in, they pretty much stopped going for triangles vs me because I had gotten very good at escaping and then passing. There were even a couple moments vs JC where I was baiting him into going for triangles because I thought it was the easiest way for me to get to side control.

I'm really not thinking too much about a rematch. I think theres a decent chance he will not still want a rematch a few months from now and/or if he does, he'll try for very unreasonable terms. I agree to an extent with your view on narratives but I also think we all create narratives. The key is to try to limit the biases that influence our narratives - something I need to constantly remind myself of and stay cognizant of.

Did you do any training in leg locks? I'm not sure if JC has ever trained leg locks since that won't be covered in basic BJJ. It was pretty surprising when he went for the heel hook. If you were training for leg locks in MMA/no gi training you should have made a submission prop vs him and train hard for heel hooks/knee bars since I don't think he trains for them.

It's pretty impressive if you are passing legit purple belts guards regardless if they are attempting triangles or not. We're you guys sparring or flow rolling? I liked how you baited JC to go for wild triangle and arm bar attempts to pass

Olivier -

What are your thoughts on the first couple of episodes of the 'All In or Knocked Out' documentary?

Has listening to JCs side given you any 'aha' moments, realigned any of your thinking on the entire scope of events?

I, for one, am grateful T Chan and Ross have done this project. If I only had Twitter and NVG to go by I'd have a far different and definitley poisoned perspective.

I want to know what these supplements are, im ready to go shopping

Let me save you some time and money. The "dood, everything in GNC has steroidzzzzzzzz!" thing is among the more idiotic things I've ever read. "Stacking their products essentially simulates steroids"...um, ok. Barely worth even responding to, but seems like some noobs are taking it semi-seriously, so might as well.

Is it true that SOME supplements have occasionally been tainted, either through facility negligence or manufacturer subterfuge? Yes, in a tiny # of instances. In fact, there are credible rumors that the original Met-Rx formulation did exactly that as they sought to build a market foothold but then changed their formula to remove the juice. Google it. But the idea that GNC shelves are stocked with rows upon rows of steroid-containing products is stupid beyond belief. "Essentially stimulates steroids?" Lawl. The supplement industry is, for the most part, one gigantic scam re: the claims they make vs. what they actually do. Anyone who disagrees has no idea what they're talking about, full stop.

^ty. However pre workout thingies, like the original jack3d, craze before dmaa ban was absolutely insane, took weeks to come off aswell when supply dried out. I am one of the plebs that miss that ****.

yea preworkout supps you can find ingredients that eventually get banned by FDA

There is no ****ing way Busquet is/was on steroids. Lmao at being drugged to death by consuming supplements that contains ''tons of steroids''. To me its clear that he has great genetics for building muscles combined with the fact that he busted his ass preparing for this match.

Busquet seems to be ducking Dnegs. What gives?

Well that settles it. Thanks for clearing that up. A+ analysis.

^^^ Notice how everyone is talking about BODY BUILDING supplements/techniques. Goes to prove that the "Bro do you even lift?" training method for an MMA fight is viewed as legit by all these guys. I should be hired as a PR agent.

"GNC products simulate steroids."

You know nothing, twoplustwo.

Just watched the fight. Busquet can actually fight, and showed solid ground n pound and top control. Alvarado is a joke though. He calls himself a fighter but did not throw a single punch the entire fight, literally not one, just those lame Jon Jones knee kicks. If your too scared to throw a punch don't fkn fight.He deserved the beating he got.

JC should have made a weight restriction stipulation on the bet. So stupid to let Olivier get a 30(?) pound advantage on him.

Didn't the guy Connor McGregor was watching die the other week??"

Correct. There have been a handful of deaths in MMA. However, there has never been a death in the UFC. As the sport continues to gain popularity there will be more deaths and eventually a death in the UFC. Deaths in MMA are fairly rare though (less common in boxing) but there is always some level of risk in a sport like this where one can receive serious trauma to the head.

Yet you want Liv to fight savages as a white belt with no striking and only GNC muscle to protect himself to chase his "dreams". Ok.

Lots of white belts have been champions. Olivier just proved that there is a lot more to winning a fight than knowing Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. This isn't 1993.