Hillary takes the heat, really??? Watch CNN, ABC, NBC or CBS much? I'm not saying Trump is a saint, but if you want some of Hillary's lies, I'd be happy to give you a small list, if you've got a spare afternoon to spend reading them.

It's really not about whether she "welshed" or not. She handled the situation in a non optimal manner.
Earlier, she came in the Hastings multi-accounting thread and said something to the effect of "lol, noobs, cheating iz super- standard."
Then she said she did not know of anyone that was multi-accounting or vpn-ing from the US.

It's all in a previous thread from a few months ago, she looked pretty weasley.

Never would have expected that he's a Trump supporter. I have a lot of respect for this contributions to the poker world, but that's a big disapointment. RIP Doyle.

Your comment says more about you than it does him. I would explain to you how you are the one that is ignorant, but I don't believe you would understand.

He's 83 and he's from Texas. Of course he supports Trump.

In Super System he said that women at a poker table make him feel uncomfortable.

So obviously he thinks being president is a mans job as well

It just goes to show that if you have a vagina you get sponsored by Pokerstars

Arguing politics with Vanessa Selbst and Liv Boeree. What could go wrong.

This is one of those cases where the poker players involved and all pro poker players for that matter, should just shut up and stay in there lane.

tho his math is probably bad, and his politics are undoubtedly worse, doyle is absolutely correct that political memes are the worst kind of memes.

Not exactly sure what on-track would be for a subject like this.

Selbst > Doyle. If you think different, that´s why you grind micros.

This makes absolutely no sense.

An old white man doesnt like the democratic nominee, news at 11.

I've read that thread (well, probably not all of it). She said some things to try to make Jason look bad, which may not have been appropriate. But she never welched on a bet.

Was pondering a couple of months ago how different things might have turned out if McCain had won the election in 2008 instead of Obama - maybe the US would still be in Iraq, maybe the US would be in Syria now too, probably that empty seat on the Supreme Court would already be filled, etc?

Guess with the US being the most powerful nation in the world, the stakes for every election for President are high. It's not so common to see so much passion for politics in my country - guess there's a lot more at stake in the US ...

I'm assuming you are bring sarcastic. But for those unaware Hillary claimed she came under sniper fire in Bosnia. Secret Service said she lied and it turned out there was footage of the day and place she said she was under sniper fire..and there she was smiling and shaking hands with people, with no sniper fire. Former Secret Service from when Bill was president, have said she was a pathological liar and a very angry person.

You are right, I would just LOL and then quickly build a wall around you. Problem solved. Next please.

PS: I don't care about what you believe.

Bonus:

getting hot and bothered over an octogenarian's stance on ANYTHING is lol

When Borders went bankrupt we were offered 8 cents on the dollar (which we turned down and have received 11 cents so far). That's the way bankruptcies work. Lots of people lose.

I'm curious how you know this? I also know Doyle, but not very well, but I do know people who do know him well and they have all told me that he was an honest player.

Mason

Have spoken over the years to a few older players and have heard the stories.

And as far as your Border's bankruptcy analogy? A lot of those small business contractors were not paid BEFORE any bankruptcy declaration. He literally would just decide not to pay them after claiming the work wasn't done to his satisfaction. Then he would offer them much much less than owed and the businesses basically had no choice but to take whatever money was offered.

Again, I only know Doyle slightly and I've heard these same type of accusations from older type players. But there are a few people who I do know quite well and who know Doyle much better than I do and they all say the stories you have heard are wrong.

In the mid 1990s, shortly after the Trump bankruptcy I was in Atlantic City and I had dinner with a gift shop distributor who was very unhappy concerning the Trump Taj bankruptcy. But that's what happens with bankruptcies, a lot of people are made unhappy and they only get pennies on the dollar.

Mason

Pretty much every country in the world, as a matter of public policy allows people to invest through limited liability entities - there is a good analogy with poker, without the "all-in protection" of the ability to declare your business (but not yourself) as bankrupt investors would be incredible cautious or "nitty" and nothing would ever get done.

That said, when a company is in trouble the owner has a choice. The first option is to invest more, try and downsize or wind it up in an orderly way, paying everyone and thereby protecting their reputation (my father was a manger at ICI and this was their general approach, and this knowledge that the main company was standing behind the subsidiaries made e.g. it easier for them to get financing or do joint ventures with other companies), the second option is that on the other hand they can choose to let the limited liability vehicle go bankrupt limiting their financial losses but taking the reputational hit and that hit is double when it's their own name hanging over the door.

When my own much smaller business was in trouble I took the first route, working for free for it and eventually traded out of problems - and I'm lucky enough that some of the original staff still want to work for me now, even though they were months behind with their salaries at one time. Obviously using the limited liability protection was an option if I'd needed it but it's my belief that it should be a last resort. If I'd taken the second route then I wouldn't expect to be able to have a political career without it being brought up.

I'm quite sure that you (Mason) would have a similar view of twoplustwo. I find it hard to imagine that if your company was in difficulties you would simply fail to pay an author's royalties at pennies on the dollar and move your activities into a new LLC, because it's your personal name and reputation associated with it too, and for some people thinking about the long term that's more important than saving a bit of extra money this year.

This is usually a Giant Douche kind of household but I'm going with the Turd Sandwich this time

+1

... and mega lol at anyone blocking others, b/c of a different opinion (not [only] referring to doyle ... see this in both camps)

fyp