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umm not the specific hand,but like he said to rui his game was poor and he considered retiring heh,and now all of a sudden he crush high stakes with his style,like this?

(...)

Preflop:
alexeimartov folds, Ilari FIN raises to $940, Fake Love888 folds, 1Il|1Il|1il| raises to $3,360, Jeans89 folds, GARFIELD25 raises to $6,800, Ilari FIN calls $5,860, 1Il|1Il|1il| raises to $11,773 and is all-in, GARFIELD25 raises to $42,459, Ilari FIN calls $35,659

(...)

1Il|1Il|1il| showed A 2 A 2 and lost (-$11,813 net)
GARFIELD25 showed 7 A Q K and won $138,252 ($75,140 net)
Ilari FIN showed T 8 6 K and lost (-$63,112 net)

What were the suits?

I ran it being generous to the Aces and made them double suited then gave the other two hands one live suit each:

Comprende?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoLost

but when you're getting **** like T865 single suited in 3way preflop

Maybe my memory deceives me but in most of the recent pots that were all-in preflop I'm pretty sure that he had Aces or Kings, way more often than weak hands.

11-23-2011 , 10:04 PM

#1952

David123

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,818

Quote:

Originally Posted by fednad

funny that alexeimartov said that ziig actually play tight compared to other regs at those limits loooool

if by funny the HS regs statement totally contradicts your own theory that Ilari is a bad player on run good and too loose, then yes, it's funny.

11-23-2011 , 10:13 PM

#1953

fednad

centurion

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what theory?Did I say hes bad hey?u aint saint but im am

11-23-2011 , 10:17 PM

#1954

guD2Bme

grinder

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When did takechip lose 400k?? Ptr shows him at 1.9M down from 2.3M

11-23-2011 , 10:18 PM

#1955

fednad

centurion

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he is a gambler and eventually will lose,thats that,but very good with brute force/aggression which make up for his wins.

11-23-2011 , 10:23 PM

#1956

loveminuszero

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fednad please respond to Ilari's equity in that hand you posted

11-23-2011 , 10:36 PM

#1957

fednad

centurion

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hows that relevant?if either of opp had kk** and other aa** hed be crushed,but ok:
if u r ready to blow over 200bb ok.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15.../index103.html

11-23-2011 , 10:40 PM

#1958

vizion88

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Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,109

Quote:

Originally Posted by guD2Bme

When did takechip lose 400k?? Ptr shows him at 1.9M down from 2.3M

11-23-2011 , 10:53 PM

#1959

Zaarg

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tbh. ilari is just a degenrate gambler...wondering how always someone calls him "one of the best in the world".

11-23-2011 , 11:03 PM

#1960

guD2Bme

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 523

Quote:

Originally Posted by vizion88

Gross. I never saw his name around since his big win so was shocked when i searched him. Now he's playing 10/20

11-23-2011 , 11:04 PM

#1961

loveminuszero

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fednad

hows that relevant?if either of opp had kk** and other aa** hed be crushed

garfield is aggro so why do you think kk and aa are the majority of his range? Also ilari had a k blocker for what its worth.

And go thru this thread and look at how often ilari's aces have been paid off recently, why do you think that is? Because he every now and then has medium strength hand in his range

I only play 25plo and know that I'm not very good at the game but surely at their level you can't define your hand as clearly as you're suggesting people should

11-23-2011 , 11:08 PM

#1962

loveminuszero

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaarg

tbh. ilari is just a degenrate gambler...wondering how always someone calls him "one of the best in the world".

He's a fish at nlhe but by highdtakesdb tracking in all other games he's up 7 million (has 3m winnings between his ftp and ps accounts but is -4m in nlhe) over a big sample dating back to jan 2007, those results speak for themselves

11-23-2011 , 11:08 PM

#1963

terp

Carnal \ 'Knowledge

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 14,780

Quote:

Originally Posted by fednad

he is a gambler and eventually will lose,thats that,but very good with brute force/aggression which make up for his wins.

i'm not surprised to see discussion of this level in here but man every so often a comment like this is just so absurd i spit my drink out laughing

well done

11-23-2011 , 11:55 PM

#1964

kevmode

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Quote:

Originally Posted by loveminuszero

Why are u nut hugging on Zigmnund so much? He is a bad person and bad for poker. I hope he goes on a massive downswing when he is on one of his drunk binge sessions.

Isildur1, Phil Ivey, Gus Hansen please come back to the high stakes online felt!

11-24-2011 , 12:08 AM

#1965

FishFishFish

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kevmode

Why are u nut hugging on Zigmnund so much? He is a bad person and bad for poker. I hope he goes on a massive downswing when he is on one of his drunk binge sessions.

Wait wat? Please explain why.

11-24-2011 , 12:30 AM

#1966

tahirkalid

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Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by superkewli

ziig doing well since august:

Man, whenever I see gavz at the tables, I´m like "when was the last time this guy has won ****"? He had this huge upswing in Jan/Feb and it seems like he´s prone to just give back every cent of those 2 Mill.

Nuts.

11-24-2011 , 12:30 AM

#1967

Zaarg

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FishFishFish

Wait wat? Please explain why.

lol this!

11-24-2011 , 12:55 AM

#1968

loveminuszero

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kevmode

http://www.pokerstatic.com/hot-seat/zigmund/

Watch that and you will know why I'm a nut hugger, dude is awesome. The ziig blowups and chat thread is another example, dude is f awesome, few poker players have a personality and few play such a volatile, fun-to-watch style

P.S. You're a joke I don't know why I'm even responding to you

11-24-2011 , 01:11 AM

#1969

Duende

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since we're on the subject of ziigmund, here's a graph rui cao posted in HSPLO yesterday:

ziig this year (only hands played with rui obv):

rui cao/pepperoniF for the year

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=10276

not that relevant, but i thought they were pretty cool garphs

11-24-2011 , 01:40 AM

#1970

loveminuszero

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That thread is so sick, just reading it now and a few pages (well probably one or two pages by some people's forum settings) before Rui posted that graph urubu posted his graph for this year, in which he's 240 buy ins below All-in EV

11-24-2011 , 03:42 AM

#1971

SoLost

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,888

^Yeah, once you've seen a bunch of PLO graphs (mig and krmont have posted a few good ones too) you realise how much of a joke the variance is in plo and how easy it is for someone to be running suuuuper hot at nosebleed plo (where the edges are smaller) for an entire year. Like Ziigmund almost certainly is now. It's why despite the games supposedfly being better I've taken a potentially huge hit to my 'salary' every year by not taking up the game. Just don't wanna put up with that variance.

11-24-2011 , 03:52 AM

#1972

Priapus1

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Why do people play PLO?

11-24-2011 , 03:56 AM

#1973

kelnel

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when you think about it, these graphs are part of the sickest graphs I've ever seen posted on 2+2

11-24-2011 , 04:03 AM

#1974

ChicagoJoey

Papi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Priapus1

Why do people play PLO?

11-24-2011 , 04:07 AM

#1975

SoLost

old hand

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey

Haha a picture says 1000 words! Was gonna write a bunch of other stuff but yeah Hastings had a pretty big part in starting the PLO boom even before his isildur win right?

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