Those guys run recruitment drives in the town where I live. Is it good?

Ahah, that's right, I'm in Prague for the EPT. Not so often at the Darling !!

Besides a couple of arrogant French guys berating Gus and others, good film making on the part of director/camera/editor Victor Saumont. However, this film had potential to be better.

People have some very high standard in this thread about berating , i d be surprised if 90% of people on their high horse wouldnt be way worse than what was seen in the video.

please elaborate.

+1 to this.

Thought the documentary was extremely well done and became fans of alex and seb, but the way they portrayed gus seemed kind of malicious and unnecessary.

There might be a cultural difference here. I'm french, but don't like overgeneralizing so I'm only speaking in my name (and not in the name of all the french).
As far as I can remember, they only say Gus is a fish. They don't say he's stupid, or anything like that. They only say his level is too low for these stakes and that he is one of their favorite player to play against because they think they have a big edge (and this seems to be corroborated by the facts).

Now my perception is that it would not be any more "classy" or "nice" at all for them to say that Gus matches their level if they think the opposite. On the contrary, them saying anything else would sound totally fake and even dishonest, as a way to keep him at the tables. In fact, what others have described as "candor" sounds much classier to me than what a lot of players actually do, which is to publicly praise a player while they think so low about them and mock them in private.

But as I said, that might just be a cultural difference. For instance, for many french people, waiters in the US often sound fake and hypocritical, while french waiters are often seen by american people as rude, because they don't smile as much and won't ask you how you are doing. It may just be something similar.

Ok but, does the interviewer at any point ask them explicitly about Gus's skill level? Because it's one thing to answer honestly when asked, and if that's the case I agree with everything you said. But if they just kept talking about how terrible he was unprovoked that isn't a "cultural thing" that's more of a DBAG thing.

ThankQ, for doc. And stitles. enjoyed. I have massive french mancrush for Alex's Lunar hair... damn its jus too soo fab and ecliptic.. Such unorganisedment but well planned and sturctured. Also, I'm snap mimicking his beard line too tomo.

I dont have much else to add, the "teamplay" notion is pretty similar to the 2M2MM scene against Viffer where its like 4:1... and similar 2p2 comments were made back then but its not like they are living together and playing like this 24/7 etc. It is what it is.

Also, regarding the player bashing, etc.. I get the feeling they are just easy going happy to say it like it is people, and that's what made the doc an enjoyable watch. There's most likely much worse going on in the poker world.

Good luck to them and much to them for having a flipping exit strategy. Well played, hope they are successful in future endeavors. Would have been a better ending for the documentary to end with detailing what they plan to do after Poker.. would have been a much better ending then.. whiffing on the bracelet hunt. But maybe they hadnt planned to shutup shop bac then.

P.S The "Merci Papa"... bit was my favorite part.

+1 Documentary was great but really surprised to see them mocking the fish in their games.

I would never ridicule any of the fish I play against but if I were going to it certainly wouldn't be on camera, and especially not in this scenario where they would be likely to hear about it.

I think the point is, the documentary is aimed at grinders, you are brought in to their world via the supposed "berating".

Would this doc aim to attrack fish to mix games and include similar comments? No.

Will this doc attract grinders to mix games? Yes. 2b) Do grinders care about not berating the fish? Depends on if it kills their action or not.

jfc how many more dolts are gonna complain about getting their fee fees hurt over the gus comments

That's not even remotely the point here.

no, the point is that nobody gives a **** how bad a bunch of nvg'ers got their panties rustled over some gus bashing, if seb and alex were concerned that it'd hurt their bottom line then they would have just kept it to themselves, but they didnt, so just have ur cry in private and get the fk over it

Are you dense?

Forgetting that it's childish,pretentious and douchey it's also not in your best interest to publicly embarrass the rec players in your game. Doesn't matter that it's Gus and he's well known/probably doesn't care.

If you owned a restaurant would you harass your regulars? Nobodies getting their panties rustled over anything just pointing out this behaviour is pure douchebaggery and -EV because well, it is.

except that gus isn't a "rec player" and this is nosebleed poker where ego is a huge factor in the games, your analogies to restaurants and micro nl are teh suck

but seriously w/e man, don't let it stop you from thinking you know something that two of the best players in the world don't (lol)

When did I make an analogy to microstakes poker or claim to know more than 2 of the best players in the world?

Forgetting that it's in bad taste, I would think it's pretty common sense not to publicly humiliate or attack people that you make your living off of. There's zero benefit to behaving that way. I'm sorry if you can't grasp that and 'herp but sebz and alex did it so itz okai rite??!'

they're levels above you man, just get over it

Again I'm not sure why you think I think I'm above them or need to 'get over' the fact that I'm not.

Regardless, getting way too off topic.

During 2m2mm there was also one player playing while logged in as another player, something his opponents wouldn't have known about. Pretty disgusting imho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1PGpGbw8kw#t=14

Yeah these 2 guys are absolute beasts (and i don't say that only bc they are french ) but they just crush and don't give in the stupid "regs" hypocrisy about "berating fish", "hating other regs "that whine and criticize fishes' bad plays when they are tilted" and stuff".
They simply take the monies with their edge not by using scummy seat scripts or being "nice" with the fishes where as those regs (the ones that say they care about fish) absolutely don't care about these fishes (they could be ruining their family they wouldn't care more) yet they are being "nice" to them while whining on forums and begging rooms to do actions "that are good for the game" (ie good for their bottom line by bringing fishes to the game) .

These guys are just the elitest of elites players, simply winning by pure talent and hard work, they know they are extremely good and they don't give false modesty bullchits and don't absolutely owe anything to anyone (i know Seb was sponsored by Stars in the past but not anymore) since they're playing their own monies. (and so are not those famous sponsored pros that would be broke for a decade if not for the room that gives them buy ins.)


EDIT : i'm not for "berating" fishes but i'm even less for giving the fake/hypocrite "nice to the fish", it's like you're taking their monies and you're even implying that they are completely stupid (in addition to being bad at poker, not like it's a terrible thing you can't live with ) because you think they won't even notice that you don't even (as a reg behaving that way) give a fack about them having fun when in fact they are completely targeted by regs and are simply interesting to them for their monies.
I'd rather see a guy with a big ego say "this guy is fish" (with the possibility this guy could see/hear it) than a guy be nice/ talk in a cool/kind way to the fish while using a seat script to insta bumhunt him/ and insta quit when the guy gets busted ...
A bumhunter giving lessons of "moral" and behaviour to other regs is a LOL joke.

THIS FACKING THIS.

Especially the second paragraph.
I guess some people could take it for "arrogance" but it's better to be "arrogant" (and i absolutely don't think they are arrogant, their level is just extremely high and they have an accurate evaluation of their skill by knowing they re extremely good) than to be a complete hypocrite that thinks "Fish is so stupid - and not only bad at poker - im sure he thinks that i really think he is good, and he can't even imagine that i'm being nice to him only to take him more monies".

I 100% agree with u daniel.

great documentary
anyone know what is that sick tune starting at 15:50?