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04-30-2018 , 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by YoungOlehead
Same thing happened to me except it said the SSN didn't match my address. Oh and if one of the reps tells you to upload ANYTHING via the poker client, don't listen to them. You'll just be wasting another day and will get an email asking you to upload them on the nj cashier site.

...Oooh, and make sure they can see the date on the utility bill or you'll have to resend it lol.
Same thing happened to me. Contacted support and was lead to believe from the response I got that this pre-registration was only for existing customers. So, I'll wait until May 1st.
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04-30-2018 , 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DSL32
That's a good example.

Even individual counties within states ban dispensaries from holding business licenses. California has problems because 80% of the counties in California have banned cannabis dispensaries. There are weed shortages in the legal California weed market because licensed grow operations have reduced from 100,000 prior to "legalization" to about 3,000.

Weed legalization is pretty much a joke. If the states don't ever regain access to the ROW player pool the same will be true of the licensed online poker industry.

Tournament players like me seem to really desire to see access to the ROW regained. We want to see the biggest prize pools possible. Whereas, cash game players don't seem as eager to give pros in the ROW access to American degens. I just think a lot more American degens would log on if they had big MTT prize pools attracting them.

I'd rather see one state gain access to the ROW player pool as opposed to a bunch of states in a ring fenced market.
Don't expect that to happen anytime soon.

We just have to hope that more and more states adopt the model already in place in NJ or Nevada and join player pools.
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04-30-2018 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
Don't expect that to happen anytime soon.

We just have to hope that more and more states adopt the model already in place in NJ or Nevada and join player pools.
Believe me, I don't.

Who has the ability to make it happen? The gaming regulators, or the politicians?

I'm just trying to get a better understanding of the situation. That way I know what to hope for exactly. Cuz if this model entails ring fencing long term it's not a model I support.

I'd rather see the states that have it get it worked out before I see any more states regulate online poker.
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04-30-2018 , 01:14 PM
The power to regulate foreign commerce lies with Congress. So, either Congress acts or establishes some sort of regulatory body whose jurisdiction includes internet gambling.
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04-30-2018 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DSL32
Who has the ability to make it happen? The gaming regulators, or the politicians?
Officially? The politicians. The NJ/NV/DE shared liquidity compact was negotiated between the three state governors: Chris Christie, Brian Sandoval and John Carney. Chris Christie's tenure as New Jersey governor ended this past January. The current NJ governor is Phil Murphy.

Unofficially? Stakeholders. Operators are the ones who decide whether to enter an online gambling market, pay corresponding licensing fees/taxes, etc. International shared player pooling with the three currently-linked U.S. states would require those int'l operators to physically house their servers within New Jersey's borders (due to NJ constitutional requirements restricting the placement of any gambling wager to Atlantic City).

Online gambling companies that already operate in jurisdictions outside the U.S. may not believe that shared access to the three-state market is enough to justify this.

Last edited by dhubermex; 04-30-2018 at 01:52 PM.
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04-30-2018 , 07:12 PM
Looks like HUDs and HH import disabled in NJ already.
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04-30-2018 , 07:34 PM
Is there a code for the 100% deposit bonus?
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04-30-2018 , 11:14 PM
was just directed to download the new NV client and the sh*t don't work

the installer completely disappears a few mins in

support has not responded to my email

I pre reg'd a new account over a week ago and completely uninstalled the old client

I really wanted to smash some interstate booty but it apparently ain't going to happen tonight
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04-30-2018 , 11:25 PM
Yep, just tried. It downloaded but then set set up and it never did.
Tried twice, it just goes away at the end.
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04-30-2018 , 11:29 PM
seems nittier/more passive than old NJ site

not much 3!

lot more 4 way pots.

anyone else seeing this too?
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04-30-2018 , 11:35 PM
Bleh not letting me log on. I used to live in NJ and had an NJ WSOP account, now I live in NV and have a NV WSOP account - neither work and support is unresponsive.
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05-01-2018 , 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Yep, just tried. It downloaded but then set set up and it never did.
Tried twice, it just goes away at the end.
Same here. Frustrating.

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05-01-2018 , 02:01 AM
Nvm got it. Right click - Run as administrator

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05-01-2018 , 02:08 AM


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05-01-2018 , 02:14 AM
Surprised this went live with no technical issues. Miss my hud, but fun to play against some new faces.
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05-01-2018 , 09:00 AM
WTF is going on here? I deleted the old NJ client and installed the new one...I received an email after my pre-registration that my user name for NJ was unavailable for the multi-state client. Had to create a new user name.....I just logged in under my old name and everything looks ok, my money is right and it allowed me to sit at a table.

All the tables still have the same names (townships in NJ) as before???? It does seem like there is more traffic though. I have no idea if im on the correct site or not.
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05-01-2018 , 10:20 AM
Yes you're on the right site lol. I'm in NV and I see the same "townships" names.
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05-01-2018 , 10:36 AM
Can one of you guys check what the highest limit hold em stake they have? Thanks
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05-01-2018 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DonJuan
Can one of you guys check what the highest limit hold em stake they have? Thanks
looks like 30/60.
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05-01-2018 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dhubermex
Officially? The politicians. The NJ/NV/DE shared liquidity compact was negotiated between the three state governors: Chris Christie, Brian Sandoval and John Carney. Chris Christie's tenure as New Jersey governor ended this past January. The current NJ governor is Phil Murphy.

Unofficially? Stakeholders. Operators are the ones who decide whether to enter an online gambling market, pay corresponding licensing fees/taxes, etc. International shared player pooling with the three currently-linked U.S. states would require those int'l operators to physically house their servers within New Jersey's borders (due to NJ constitutional requirements restricting the placement of any gambling wager to Atlantic City).

Online gambling companies that already operate in jurisdictions outside the U.S. may not believe that shared access to the three-state market is enough to justify this.
Sounds like it's New Jersey's fault.

Why are they being so unreasonable regarding the server locations? It's the internet.

Do these people not understand the concept of IP addresses? The player is located within the borders of the state when they place the bet. This is proven by multiple factors. IP addresses, ID verification proving residency, GPS, etc.

Why is the server location the one and only important factor in determining where the bet is being made? The bet is being made wherever the person's computer is located. Whoever made up this rule just concocted it out of thin air over a technicality they simply deemed important it appears.

It seems like whoever made this up has an agenda. Cherry picking server locations as the only factor in determining the location of a wager clearly displays a personal bias in the creators of the law. They simply went with the factor that would guarantee a ring fenced market. That's not a mistake. That's a well coordinated decision.

Politicians and regulators in New Jersey are scumbags. Keep your weird ring fenced poker cult out of my state please.

Last edited by DSL32; 05-01-2018 at 11:26 AM.
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05-01-2018 , 11:27 AM
^^^ I think it's just a law that pre dates the internet.


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Originally Posted by zapzer
looks like 30/60.
The largest I see is 5/10. I'm on the DE site, what does everyone else see for limit holdem?
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05-01-2018 , 11:32 AM
apparently i don't know how to post images, but im in NJ. limit holdem rarely if ever ran on WSOP from what I saw
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05-01-2018 , 11:43 AM
No saving password and screen name, have to type it all in everytime.

Was in the middle of hand and it says i am not in Nevada, luckily it still paid me the money and then I had to try to re log in, typing in all the bs again and now it won't locate me!

Also it froze up once during play.

Good times!
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05-01-2018 , 11:52 AM
Now the software won't load at all.
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05-01-2018 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
^^^ I think it's just a law that pre dates the internet.




The largest I see is 5/10. I'm on the DE site, what does everyone else see for limit holdem?
Which, is why the politicians messed up by choosing server locations as opposed to IP addresses as the factor in determining the location of a wager. "Messed up" is the wrong term because it implies a mistake. Which, clearly isn't the case here. They consciously chose to do this.

The law isn't the problem. It's the politicians that are the problem. If they chose IP addresses (among other identification verification processes) as the determining factor the law wouldn't even remotely censor players from accessing the ROW site.

The politicians and the regulators in New Jersey are to blame. Among those in Vegas and Delaware who are choosing to go along with this abomination. It sounds like a bunch of Sheldon Adelson groupies in the Adelson Fan Club got together and figured out the best way to destroy the online poker market in the states for Amaya.

I guess they just perceived Amaya as an up and coming competitor in their market and decided to make decisions to hurt them. Sad the rest of us have to suffer so a few Casino owners can make a poor financial decision by screwing over Amaya and removing a perceived "competitor" from the market. Or, at least downsizing them significantly. When, in reality, Pokerstars increases foot traffic in Casinos by providing players with a bankroll to fund it.

I've never been to Vegas, or Atlantic City. With decisions like this, I don't intend on going any time soon. I wonder if Amaya choosing to incorporate Casino games into their Pokerstars business model caused the Casinos to go after them. Amaya just put a target on their back by doing that. Land based Casinos felt Amaya would take away additional customers.

Casino operators in Vegas and Atlantic City are just a bunch of low lifes, basically. Looking for petty little edges in their industry that aren't even conclusive edges. As they very well could decrease their profits by removing Pokerstars as a feeder system to their Casinos. It's one thing if your decision is guaranteed to increase profits. It's another thing if their is a serious possibility that it could decrease profits. A guaranteed profit means your a tough businessman. A slight possibility of an increase in revenue with a serious chance of losing money by chasing away potential customers by making a decision that negatively impacts those people is the decision of a horrible businessman that lacks a sufficient understanding of their market.

You can't hurt the customers with poor decisions and expect them to give you business because your the only business around offering the product. Perceiving Amaya as a colleague as opposed to a competitor would be a more logical and profitable decision.

Last edited by DSL32; 05-01-2018 at 12:41 PM.
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