Firstly, I didn't have any money on Full Tilt so I'm not going to go "apenuts" whatever happens.

Secondly, I'm not mad at anyone. It's just crazy to accuse someone who said maybe it wouldn't be a good idea to play on the new Full Tilt of being on the same level as Bitar, et al.

Thirdly, do you really think Tapie's doing this out of the goodness of his heart and for the good of the poker community?

Heres the thing. I simply wont trust FTP unless they pay me back first. If I can't grind on the funds they owe me, I will DEFINITELY NOT deposit there. I don't even care if it beats pokerstars back in to the US (which I doubt will happen for either).

All you donkeys that wanna deposit on a site that robbed you before... you will have nobody to blame but yourself when you get robbed a second time.

I think we all should boycott whatever new FTP comes out unless they offer to pay everyone back in full, UP FRONT. YEAH, I know its over 400 million, but guess what, that is like 1 year of what they will make if they do it, so EFF it, I want all my money back NOW. If they dont have the money to do that, then smh.

No Effin WAY I EVER DEPOSIT UNLESS I GET ALL MY MONEY BACK FIRST. At that point I will give them another shot and I really hope that all other serious grinders who got robbed feel the same way. I refuse to be a victim of FULL-PONZI POKER part 2.

"Ruin my life once shame on you, ruin it twice shame on me."

do u think that FTP will get broke if u dont deposit? nobody asking/pursue to deposit when they re-open. u are free to go with your money.

Way to bust a CAPS LOCK in Tapies ass bro. Am sure he will read your post and send the cheque straight away if not sooner!

Is misé Tompakee®

I guess it sounds like Im upset with Tapie, by no means. If he is going to get us our money back, taking a huge investment risk, then I applaud his heart and ambition. He will be my hero, and yes I think he will make a huge profit from this. Cheers, if that's the case.

I'm upset by the fact that it seems 1/2 the people on this thread seem to have no problem depositing money before they get compensation. It seems absurdly dumb, to be blunt. No offense, but people need to think.

Maybe I'm not up to date here, but does anyone actually know who really stole our money? Is it not possible that there are people behind the scenes that are running the show whose names have not come to surface yet, maybe some very smart con artists who somehow stayed out of the limelight? Most of us dont know the whole truth, call me a conspiracy nut. Without compensation, How do we know that this is not just another scam?

You sir are a conspiracy nut!

Is misé Tompakee®

Keep up the good work

That if, is ofcourse very important as you said. And yes, ofcourse they're in this to make money but that doesn't change the fact that they are using their money to pay us players back. I don't really see what difference it'd make if they're white knights or money hungry capitalist. Action is still the same.

Firstly, good for you.

Secondly, Bitar etc ran away with our money. Now some wants to do the same to GBT. And still calls it 'their' money. Just lol. Atleast leave something and play a bit and pay some rake as a thanks. The least pretty much everyone can do, right?

Thirdly, if you think about it, does it matter? I know he's in it for the money but it doesn't matter in any way at all.

Good work Tompakee!! Man seems to actually know what he's talking about!!

This is again good news, things ARE moving in the right direction. While its still a long way from all being sorted out, things are clearly moving along nicely behind the scenes.

As for the posters doubting if people will go back, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???! Why wouldnt you??? They will obviously be doing all they can to promote the site when it re opens, whether its a rakeback or monthly bonus structure along with a huge deposit bonus, rake races, SnG/MTT leaderboards. If you see huge traffic and hella soft games why on earth would you not go back???!!

Im not saying deposit $20k or anything, but the more good players i hear saying they will never go back wants me to play there even more!!!

Tapie is most likely backed by Wynn. Once they pass all the laws here to legalize online poker, Tapie and ftp 2 will lease out the software to the states.
Wynn will profit and have gov contract via Tapie and FTP2. Tapie is and has always been a broker. He most likely runs the french casino monopoly for the live casino cartel as well. Behind Wynn is Milken. Gov or states will not profit. When was last time you saw the states or gov do anything for you, it is all for corporate interests. Part of deal is probably to drop all proceedings against Bitar/Lederer.

Withdrawing your own money that you're owed is not remotely comparable to what Bitar did.

Precisely, his motive doesn't matter at all. Therefore, don't play there just out of some misguided sense of loyalty. If you weigh up the pros and cons and decide the pros outweigh the cons then fair enough.

i have money on ftp and I would definitely play there again. I played numerous poker sites but Idk ftp seemed the best IMO. I loved the poker academy, take two, midnight madness, mini-ftops, etc. Looking forward to upcoming updates.

All I'm saying is that instawithdrawing is a real scumbag attitude unless the withdrawer really need the money right there and then. Say thanks by playing some.

Tilts me when ppl say "omg how can anyone ever play there again imma withdraw my monies bout tree fiddy instatntly and go play on lierstars"

By lierstars you mean paidout2weeksafterblackfridaystars?

Yeah, instawithdrawing money you've not been able to get for over 12 months and were scared had gone forever is really scummy... I find it incredible you can turn this situation around so that players are the villains.

People say that because as far as we know many of the same staff who must have either been a) aware of what was going on or b) incompetent enough not to know are still there.

If everyone's BR are returned 100%, would you guys consider staying on FTP2 or moving to other sites, namely Stars?

If Tapie was the owner, or AGCC the licencing agency, I wouldn't play there at first. If it looked stable after 6+ months, I might consider trying it out if they had some freeroll tournaments and the microstakes were unusually juicy. With Tapie or the AGCC involved, I'd never put a significant portion of my poker roll there.

(Doesn't mean I think everybody should take this approach.)

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hey guys-

can someone dig up the phone numbers for any of the new FTP company(s)? i want to call up and inquire after my balance.

Pocket Kings has a phone number on their website.

Good luck with that......

And the price Tapie has to pay to take over the company is that he must replace that money. That doesn't make the players who receive it scumbags.

Clear enough?

Any1 else find it kinda pathetic they are putting up a whole 1M euros when they need like a hundred times that....

I don't think you understand what's going on. This 1m has nothing to do with player funds. They would be held by another company in another bank account.

What I find kinda pathetic is that people think they (GBT) have actually put up 1M euros. (I tried to get mods to change the misleading thread title.)

WRT GCubed Ltd., they have actually put up two euros, plus the cost of incorporation. The 1M is authorized share capital. Only 2 of the authorized million has been taken up.

I never said they were.

If you cash out everything w/o playing you're saying **** off to the people who gave you money they doesn't owe you. That's what I think, and that's what I'm saying.