Negreanu recently offered a prop bet (the conditions unclear) that he could beat 5000NL over a set period of time

Doug Polk claims Daniel cant beat the highest stakes online according to an interview with him in Card Player magazine, and has taken offense to the suggestion.

It seems pretty ridiculous to me to suggest one of the most successful poker players isnt capable of doing this.

this is new and exciting

Maybe he just wants the poker kid stressing harder than he is now to cause him pain ? Or maybe he hopes it seriously damages bankroll and then he can stake him?

Exactly.

As you can see, I don't post all that much. Also, I've never posted solely for the purpose of writing "boring," "stupid thread," etc.

Until now.

Clicked on the front page to see this at the top...amazing. Just amazing.

This challenge never happened for various reasons. It will likely never happen.

Negreanu has run hot in a few live donkaments with extremely fishy fields. The guys who beat 5knl are poker geniuses - their poker abilities are FAR superior than Negreanu could ever hope to achieve, even if he devoted the rest of his life to beating 6max 100bb NLHE.


Anyway, this thread should probably be locked, or moved to the big thread on this topic from a few months ago.

Sick of Negreanu threads

This.

Unban Negreanu and give him an NVG containment thread.

This is just beyond absurd.

The guy's one of the best Live tournament players on the planet, with multiple WSOP and WPT wins, POY titles, including doing well in High Roller events (which are far from fishy fields). So making it seem like the guy's got lucky a few times is totally ridic.

Having said that, iPoker is a completely different game, requiring different skills, so he'd absolutely be a dog, even likely at mid stakes. It certainly doesn't mean top online guys are way smarter than him, they've just honed different skills. He said in an interview some time ago (several months back maybe) that he seldom even plays Live cash, so online cash would likely crush him.

The snobbish attitude that online players>live players or that cash players>tourney players is eyerollingly tilting. They're different games requiring different skills.

If he offered evens at 50nl over a decent sample size, I would genuinely contemplate betting against him

I think he could probably do it assuming his poker celebrity draws some big marks to tables he is sitting at.

Negreanu beating or not beating 5KNL doesn't prove that he's not as smart as the top online guys. But listening to him talk for 10-15 minutes should settle that dispute without him needing to play poker.

more like negranold amirite

Doug Polk seems like such a douche bag.

If he can beat 5kNL online ill fist myself.

His K high call down vs Coleman in the One Drop showed he couldnt beat anything close to 5k NL.

"Over a set period of time"

So he acknowledges he can't beat it now

^^ This

i appreciate, that some users really try to save this thread

MTTs are much much easier than 100bb 6m nlhe, and there is no disputing or denying that.

I just hope his hair plugs fall out (and OP's if he has them)

Not this.

MTT's are simpler version of poker than 100bb 6max nlhe cash game. There are just more decisions you have to make in cash game than MTT's because of stack depth and they are often harder decisions. Yes, they require different skillset, however, cash game requires MORE skills than tournaments.

Regarding DN, I mean don't you guys see how many preflop/postflop mistakes he makes on televised episodes? This guy plays so weak passive, I doubt he can even beat nl500 online.

Of course different formats require diff skillsets so its hard to compare and all, but almost anyone who understands the game enough to beat midstakes cash online can pretty easily learn to beat live tourneys and the opposite is not true. And I say that as a tourney player. I think its much rarer for a live especially an mtt player to switch over to online cash and it would take much more work than the opposite. Partially this is b/c tourneys are easier to you dont have to be a crusher to win.
Point is even if Negraneu could ever beat 5kNL it would take a lot of work.

doug polk is a douche
negreanu can't beat online poker

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somebody needs to make a youtube compilation video of all of the various terrible plays daniel has made in televised cash games through the years. he is certainly a live MTT crusher, and i think he has a pretty big edge on fields in that format, but he really is one of the worst "big name" cash game players ive ever seen. i think he showed a profit in one(?) season of high stakes poker. he also played terribly vs other pros on the pokerstars big game, and on the few times he played poker after dark cash games. obviously being a successful poker pro he has a huge ego and is blind to the fact that he could be an underdog in any format, but the sad truth is that he really is a one trick pony. he crushes tournaments, runs his mouth, and casual poker fans love and admire him. but any hardcore player or fan knows the truth about this guy. if he really wants to prove himself he should just get his employer to ship him a few hundred K on the freakin site he works for and play 25/50 for a few months straight! simple as that. nothing is holding him back and if anything it could be an opportunity for stars to promote a challenge with their star in the limelight. i really think that daniel just knows deep down that he is a huge dog and would end up a big loser after all is said and done, so he will continue to run his mouth but ultimately will avoid putting in any significant volume. if only the public knew what sham this guy really is...i think its time for him to finally come out of the closet, admit that the online high stakes cash players are better than he is, and shut his stupid mouth and get back to grinding MTTs. if he does those things he would probably gain the respect of many real poker players out there, as well as being a new icon in the LGBT community. man up, danny boy.

This very subject was discussed ad nauseam in the following thread:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...-nlhe-1467138/

Of course, THAT thread was a merge of two different threads. So if this third thread were to be merged with what was previously two threads, we would have a (gasp)